Couched Lancing?

[Dualhammers]

I have been reading the fourms and I am unable to find out how to knock someone out with a lance. Whenever I use a great lance (the weapon I bought to do the job) all I do is kill my opponent. Is there any weapon or particular way of striking my opponent that will just knock them uncconious?

 

[Kissaki]

You have to look for the polearms that deal "b"s in thrusting damage, instead of "p"s. The jousting lance, for example, is a 12b Ibelieve. The "b" indicates bludgeoning damage, which knocks your opponent out rather than killing him. The only lance that will knock your opponent out is the jousting lance.

 

[Raybur Ravenloc]

polehammers work well too sometimes...

 

[Helldiver]

Speaking of lancing... Is the 19p Great Lance the best I will find? I really like this design over the double sided lance but wish I could find something in the 20+ regions.

A good lance with long reach that uses a shield has been difficult to find (a double sided lance with 22p+ ?).

What number governs the damage when horse charging? Thrust? Or Pierce?

If I'm using a lance with 19p is it more effective then one with 19t ? Or the other way?

Some clarification would be appreciated.

 

[Oggy]

Lancing has always apealed to me, I just suck too much with it to bother

 

[Garth]

The Ashwood Pike and the other special pike deal 23p and 26p damage, and have a range of 160 and 170 respectively, though I can't remember which deals which and wha the name of the other pike is.

However, don't have nearly the range of the great lance and jousting lance, and both the great lance and the jousting lance should knock out or kill enemies in a single hit.

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, it's very, very easy to get good at lancing. In fact, once you get good, you realize how cheap it actually is (and I still don't see why it deals so much more damage than a great axe to the face charging at full speed). I don't use it for that reason, it makes the game boring.

 

[Sir Prince]

With the great lance and some 100 profiencincy in pole arms you will kill enemies instantly, even before that they will die instantly, why would you need more than 19p?

 

[Helldiver]

With the great lance and some 100 profiencincy in pole arms you will kill enemies instantly, even before that they will die instantly, why would you need more than 19p?

-Because it isn't killing them instantly...
I'll charge in, I know I hurt them because I will gain experience in polearms (at around 120 something). And they yell ouch and get knocked down. I'll come back around, same thing. On the third hit they die. Although usually there is a 50% chance they die due to being trampled by my warhorse.

I'm not concerned over one-hit-kills. If the great lance at 19p is all I need or should be concerned with, then thanks. Thats all I needed clarifying. Its not like I have at-hand information as to how many hitpoints they have, how much I'm dealing, or what is my potential with the current weapon. So far it seems "bigger is better" for which ever weapon type/branch you use. I see: rusty, cracked, bent, crude, broadsword and think the lances work up the same way.

regards.

 

[Innocence]

-Because it isn't killing them instantly...
I'll charge in, I know I hurt them because I will gain experience in polearms (at around 120 something). And they yell ouch and get knocked down.

Sounds like you hit them yes, but are you getting the
Couched lance damage!
message on screen when you do?

Cause if you're not, then your're probably making the rookie mistake and using the attack button (Left Mouse Button) when using the lance. Do not touch the attack button when using a lance - just ride and the lance will lower itself, aim and let momentum do the rest.

Weapon length is crucial! I tried using alternative lances but often ran into problems when fighting other lancers or infantry with pikes - if their lance/pike is longer, you'll never score a frontal hit with your own lance, since they'll hit you first.

The Jousting Lance is the longest weapon, the Great Lance is second longest. Joust is bludgeon but deal slightly less damage then Great Lance (the most devastating weapon ever)

 

[Deus Ex]

The trick that helped me, was someone told me to try and 'strafe' the tip of the lance across the target. If you get the couched lance damage, there is a nice 'slicing' sound as well *grin*

DE

 

[JoshRose]

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, it's very, very easy to get good at lancing.

Someone above mentioned that they were not good at lancing. I just wanted to mention that I sucked at first, but eventually I learned on thing that made me infinitely better...

Don't use the mouse to aim. I simply keep the mouse pointed straight, so that the lance is straight, and I actually do most of my aiming with the keyboard. If someone is a little to the left, or a little to the right, steer your horse, and aim that way, rather than moving the mouse. Personally, I found this to be much more effective.

 

[cheesemonger]

Cause if you're not, then your're probably making the rookie mistake and using the attack button (Left Mouse Button) when using the lance. Do not touch the attack button when using a lance - just ride and the lance will lower itself, aim and let momentum do the rest.

Ah-hah! see this is the thing that it doesn't say in the documentation. it doesn't say to just poke them without actually attacking. it just isnt mentioned anywhere. which is why it took me so long to learn. feck.

 

[Jerky]

If you talk to the fighters in Zendars pub, they'll tell you about different damage types. If i remember correctly, If you talk to the old man in the pub, he tells you how he ends fights quickly with a lance, and than tells you how to do couched lance.

 

[Nibble]

Cause if you're not, then your're probably making the rookie mistake and using the attack button (Left Mouse Button) when using the lance. Do not touch the attack button when using a lance - just ride and the lance will lower itself, aim and let momentum do the rest.

Ah-hah! see this is the thing that it doesn't say in the documentation. it doesn't say to just poke them without actually attacking. it just isnt mentioned anywhere. which is why it took me so long to learn. feck.

Your couched lance damage is also dependent upon the relative speeds of yourself and your enemy. Get a horse with high speed (spirited hunters and spirited coursers are best), increase your riding ability, and always hit people head-on or from the side.

 

[Hansundfranz]

Overall I think that neither (couched lances nor missile weapons, Trown bow or crossbow) are overpowered. Weapons you hit ppl with are underpowered. For gameplay reason I think it would make sense to downgrade couched lancing and missile weapons.

 

[Helldiver]

Well I didn't know I wasn't supposed to hit the attack key. As others mentioned. what a NPC tells you, usually is not applied to OOC events such as "usage of keys and such". I tend to take everything an NPC says as in character story information.

NPC Says "charge in with your lance at the ready"
Doesn't translate to "Move your horse using the forward key so that it begins to gallop hastily up to the targeted NPC. Do not press the attack key, drive your horse in a way so that the lance impales the target"

Now that I know that...

On a side note; Maybe Couched lance damage shouldn't work this way and should instead only work when you actually spear them using the attack key. Requiring more precise timing? Maybe it would make it a bit more challenging and balanced?

Thanks for the clarification. Don't know how this is clasified as a rookie mistake if I never knew about this, don't have access to a manual or anything of the sort...

regards!

 

[Deus Ex]

If it is any consolation, I'm sure nearly all of us tried it that way at first as well.

DE

 

[Ls]

I prefer the great lance. The jousting one KNOCKS the oppoment out, which is the major problem when fighting big armies(+50) If you get knocked out and have to leave, the time it takes until you have 100%hp is long enough to fight these ko guys again...

 

[fisheye]

What affects how quickly the player couches his lance?

1. speed of the horse
2. polearms skill (?)
3. riding skill (?)
4. type of lance (?)

Can anyone confirm 2,3,4?

 

[Tentacle]

Well, if you look at it another way, that in some cases, nothing is realistic. If you got hit with a rusty arming sword with no armour on and survived, you'd get an awful infection. Never mind an infection, you wouldn't survive it anyway if they stabbed you in the right place! Nasteh.