Control ratio of troops which spawn in large battles?

[Julio-Claudian]

Is there any way to influence which of your troops spawn on the battlefield first when the opposing armies each have 1000+ troops?

It's maddening when I have a 100+ cavalry or horse archers in an army but only around ten are present at the start of the battle whilst the enemy spawn in with a much larger amount of the same troop type. It makes those troops useless as throughout the battle they trickle onto the field in small enough numbers to be easily wiped out.

Is just random?

 

[Lord Irontoe]

It should pull more guys from the top of the list, but there's some randomness, so it will still pull guys from the bottom too. The problem is that when you upgrade troops they go to the bottom of the list, so you wind up with all your best troops as the last ones to enter the battle unless you remember to reorder them

 

[Julio-Claudian]

I see. I use that unit sort mod which puts horse archers and cavalry below everything else, so that would explain that. I suppose it's just random for the other parties in your army though. It would be nice if there was a way to directly control the amount of each unit group that you start the battle with.

 

[Lord Irontoe]

I see. I use that unit sort mod which puts horse archers and cavalry below everything else, so that would explain that. I suppose it's just random for the other parties in your army though. It would be nice if there was a way to directly control the amount of each unit group that you start the battle with.

That would be the ideal way to do it. Until they fix it, you can change how the party sorting mod arranges your troops by reordering the sorters. If you move the tier sorter before the formation sorter, it should arrange them by tier first, formation second. Or just remove the formation sorter altogether.

 

[geala]

The fact remains that you only get a fraction of your troops. Coupled with the extremely stupid friendly AI and the reinforcement spawn mechanic that makes any bigger battle a nightmare to me. No problem if your army is vastly superior in troop number and quality of course. But we lost several battles where we had numerical superiority but the enemy had better armored units and more cavalry. It's annoying that you can do nothing to prevent your side from suicidal attacks. One of the reasons I stopped playing. You notice, it's not a Bannerlord problem, it's a M+B problem.

 

[Julio-Claudian]

That would be the ideal way to do it. Until they fix it, you can change how the party sorting mod arranges your troops by reordering the sorters. If you move the tier sorter before the formation sorter, it should arrange them by tier first, formation second. Or just remove the formation sorter altogether.

Which mod are you using? The one I've got is very simple and doesn't have that option.

Edit: found the one you were talking about

The fact remains that you only get a fraction of your troops. Coupled with the extremely stupid friendly AI and the reinforcement spawn mechanic that makes any bigger battle a nightmare to me. No problem if your army is vastly superior in troop number and quality of course. But we lost several battles where we had numerical superiority but the enemy had better armored units and more cavalry. It's annoying that you can do nothing to prevent your side from suicidal attacks. One of the reasons I stopped playing. You notice, it's not a Bannerlord problem, it's a M+B problem.

That's why I never join armies with my own troops, if they're valuable to me. I think it'd make a big difference if reinforcements spawned all at once after the first wave is gone rather than arriving a few at a time.

 

[Lord Irontoe]

Which mod are you using? The one I've got is very simple and doesn't have that option.

Party Screen Enhancements. It lets you choose how troops are sorted by adding or reordering the sorting elements. Hasn't been updated to the latest version yet, though.

Party Screen Enhancements

Adds an Upgrade All, Sort all, and a Recruit All Prisoners button to the party interface.Includes a user friendly UI for configuration.

www.nexusmods.com

 

[Julio-Claudian]

Party Screen Enhancements. It lets you choose how troops are sorted by adding or reordering the sorting elements. Hasn't been updated to the latest version yet, though.

Party Screen Enhancements

Adds an Upgrade All, Sort all, and a Recruit All Prisoners button to the party interface.Includes a user friendly UI for configuration.

www.nexusmods.com

That helped a lot with controlling who spawns first.

Hopefully they'll fix where troops spawn. Enemy reinforcements often randomly appear directly behind my lines on the opposite end of the field to the rest of their army.