Nethros 说:
What the **** ? Of course not.
Edit: little addition:
QFT.
I'm actually offended by this idea, since, incase you don't realise, this would, you know, literally destroy Fantasy mod.
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What the **** ? Of course not.
Edit: little addition:
QFT.
I'm actually offended by this idea, since, incase you don't realise, this would, you know, literally destroy Fantasy mod.
Highelf 说:
It wouldn't. If something like that happened, you'd have a place on MBX, if you wanted it. Same for anyone else who might otherwise be left in the cold.
Also, what's with these 'gay rules' that I keep hearing about? Have the admins been asking people to bend over and spread 'em without my knowledge? All we ask is to make posts that can actually be read, and try not to flame each other too much. As long as you have basic social skills you never even notice the rules. Things are really quite relaxed in general.
As far as modding goes, it's been in a slump community-wide. I've lost interest, most of the modders I know have lost interest, and I expect that'll continue until at least the new version of M&B comes out. 0.80X was just too much trouble for modders without enough excitement and new features to keep them interested.
I'll resume Storymod C2 at some point, but again, probably not until the next version. I'm going to have to completely rebuild it anyway to get the kinks out -- might as well have a good reason for it.
I'd be open to changing the MBX rules a bit, letting people post openly about their mods on either forum without restrictions. The only thing we can't do is have double subforums, the Taleworlds admins have specifically said to me that they don't want that. Which is probably fair enough. Too much trouble for everyone to deal with.
Redoubtably,
Winter
messenger
Sergeant Knight
The only real thing that's held me back from seriously taking up modding is the new version looming...
I have to say I find both of these forums are good, MBX is a good place for mods that wouldn't be able to stay on Taleworlds however lack of traffic is indeed a problem.
I have to say I find both of these forums are good, MBX is a good place for mods that wouldn't be able to stay on Taleworlds however lack of traffic is indeed a problem.
Winter 说:
I appreciate that, thanks.
Although, for me, that doesn't change the fact I still prefer to have my mod located here and am still very much against the idea of actually deleting this place. (I mean seriously, even saying it sounds wierd.)
bugman
Marquis
Cymro 说:I would be against closing the modding boards.
It seems that the bulk of posters on MBX are the big modders, and I haven't seen (many) of them post in my mod's thread. The rest are all recruits saying how much they like the mod. If I moved to MBX, I'd get less recruits telling me that they liked my mod. If I had less posters telling me things, I wouldn't be encouraged to do anything, so I wouldn't.
Yoshi's RPG mod would have been much more of a success if it had been released on Taleworlds too, but sadly there's a rule against that sort of thing
RPG mod was released?
Great_Duke
Grandmaster Knight
The 'gay rules' would be the out of touch admin decisions, like banning Highelf *after* he left the boards, banning people for no good reason and much more.
Even I was kind of a victim of this nonsense. When someone made a racist comment on me, and I asked the moderation to take action, not only you took over 2 weeks just to reply but you also banned me and the offender, just because I asked the rules to be used. Go figure. This kind of **** won't make people use a forum, specially when they don't have to.
Do you think Fantasy mod supporters were overjoyed by the fuzz you made, for instance?
Even I was kind of a victim of this nonsense. When someone made a racist comment on me, and I asked the moderation to take action, not only you took over 2 weeks just to reply but you also banned me and the offender, just because I asked the rules to be used. Go figure. This kind of **** won't make people use a forum, specially when they don't have to.
Do you think Fantasy mod supporters were overjoyed by the fuzz you made, for instance?
bryce777
Count
You got banned GD? The highelf thing was an emotional reaction, but otherwise moderation there seems ok (until hearing this).
One thing people don't take into account is the dmoain itself. I mean, Winter has lost interest in modding. It's very possible to lose interest completely in M&B or for him to get hit by a bus. Or to lose the domain name. Or to lose all the posts - in fact I am certain this will eventually happen. You just can't expect a third party to keep track of it all for years and years like the company itself would.
Also, the url is unprofessional and looks like someone's personal blog. If I saw that as the modding site for taleworlds, I would never have clicked on it in the first place, let alone bothered to register. It also goes down fairly regularly since it does not have dedicated hosting.
One thing people don't take into account is the dmoain itself. I mean, Winter has lost interest in modding. It's very possible to lose interest completely in M&B or for him to get hit by a bus. Or to lose the domain name. Or to lose all the posts - in fact I am certain this will eventually happen. You just can't expect a third party to keep track of it all for years and years like the company itself would.
Also, the url is unprofessional and looks like someone's personal blog. If I saw that as the modding site for taleworlds, I would never have clicked on it in the first place, let alone bothered to register. It also goes down fairly regularly since it does not have dedicated hosting.
Thus spake Nosferatu 说:
That's because it didn't happen like Great_Duke said. He copped a clearly-outlined tempban for excessive flaming.
Great_Duke 说:
1) How am I supposed to act immediately on things that go unreported? When it was finally reported, Yoshi was handling the case initially, and only asked me to step in at a later date.
2) You were just as out of line as the other person, enough to warrant a ban, but still your ban was a lot shorter in duration. I don't see how you have a right to complain. This is called 'even-handedness'.
In short, you're pissed off because you got called on your own bull**** and had to pay the price? I can see how you might not like MBX then. We don't let you get away with everything, and I think it likely that the Taleworlds admins would've made the same call given the situation. And here you are, trying to sling mud and drag your petty feud into a completely unrelated topic. Were you planning on leaving adolescene behind anytime soon?
Disappointedly,
Winter
Quick observation: A lot have people have said, 'I went over to MBX once, but it was dead. I never went there again'
Therein lies the problem. The reason that nobody posts is because nobody posts. It's a self fulfilling prophesy.
If everyone had jumped on board at the start, a good community could have been propagated, and it may have been a big success.
People need to go over there and start participating a bit. Then, and only then, can a community build up.
Therein lies the problem. The reason that nobody posts is because nobody posts. It's a self fulfilling prophesy.
If everyone had jumped on board at the start, a good community could have been propagated, and it may have been a big success.
People need to go over there and start participating a bit. Then, and only then, can a community build up.
Great_Duke
Grandmaster Knight
Me? Flaming? Look, all I did was to post in a modders thread asking him to remove my name from the credits and not to use my stuff. Why? because he was demonstrating bad will towards me and refusing to do something he said he would. Good will for good will I say. I did this in the most polite manner possible, and the post is there for you to see it.
Now, when this "person", who happens to be a *moderator* at MBX, calls me a "****ed up mexican arse", things get out of line. Because it's racism. Because it's idiotic (For christ's sake, I'm a Brazilian. I don't even ****ing look like a mexican.). Because it's a personal attack.Because I didn't give him reason to it. And most of all, because the ****er is a moderator.
I reported it and you guys handled it at a turtle's pace. I don't really mind this kind of internet bull****, but I deffinately lost my patience at the second week or so that you didn't reply because it sounded like stolling. And I did say something like "Ban the **** because it's the rules, and make sure he doesn't use my stuff because it's also in the rules". Was that out of line? Given the situation, I don't think so. but whatever.
I didn't made a fuzz out of it because I really didn't use your boards. But you got admit it was bull****. Shocking bull****. The kind that keeps people away from your boards.
Think of what would happen if it was on taleworlds... the right thing would happen. And please, don't call me an adolescent with petty feuds. The guy apologized and I accepted. I'm just illustrating the idiocy of the administration of MBX. That's the reason to bring it up.
And the Highelf thing? Worse MBX propaganda ever. You don't just ban people because they don't want to use your forums. It's stupid. At least you didn't do it again...there are many modders coming back here.
QuailLover
Marquis
Personally I don't really care.
My browser remembers both, so all I have to do, is press the first letter and it pops up.
My browser remembers both, so all I have to do, is press the first letter and it pops up.
bryce777
Count
Ursca 说:
Aside from TLD and darkmod I just don't have any interest in anything over there in the first place, but like I said I think that (especially at the stage TLD is in) lack of feedback is not the killer I once thought.
Your desire to mod ultimately has to come from within yourself. It is a big commitment in time and I think that is a lot of why mods fail. In a big sense I think that TLD has been so successful and never died because AW has not tried to force the M&B engine into a mold it does not work well with. He retains the good aspects of combat and mostly just adds in some 'scorekeeping' ala the original Pirates! as the main motivation, in the form of a winnable game. Without a bunch of crazy features or loads of dialog.
However, it takes time. People get bored. Life interrupts. Eventually AW will lose interest or have something major come up. Like any mod, but in that case especially traffic is no issue - he gets plenty of traffic. After a while it gets tiresome to see the same people requesting the same crap, though.
True enough. The problem is that TLD relies on contributors for any graphics that need doing. Yes, It's generally the same people that do them, but contributions generally are community based.
For instance, if I hadn't seen Merlkir's Uruk Concept, I probably wouldn't have had a go at those orc helmets. I'd imagine it's the same for others as well.
For instance, if I hadn't seen Merlkir's Uruk Concept, I probably wouldn't have had a go at those orc helmets. I'd imagine it's the same for others as well.
This is getting somewhat off topic, but:
I really don't think that's a problem whatsoever, it's actually a good thing, since, like you said, it's same people doing the graphics. Imagine AW had to do all the graphics by himself. Imagine how less great TLD would be then. True, it would have a more secure base, as in, the mod leader will do work for his own mod, and is not community based. But it would be less cool, simply because there's less content and less quality. (because it's all done by one person.)
Also, out of own experiences, actuall official team members tend to do less because they feel more like they have to do it. Contributors are way more free, and actually end up doing more stuff than most non-leader team members, if you get what I mean.
Ursca 说:
I really don't think that's a problem whatsoever, it's actually a good thing, since, like you said, it's same people doing the graphics. Imagine AW had to do all the graphics by himself. Imagine how less great TLD would be then. True, it would have a more secure base, as in, the mod leader will do work for his own mod, and is not community based. But it would be less cool, simply because there's less content and less quality. (because it's all done by one person.)
Also, out of own experiences, actuall official team members tend to do less because they feel more like they have to do it. Contributors are way more free, and actually end up doing more stuff than most non-leader team members, if you get what I mean.
