SP Fantasy Conan: Conquest of Hyboria (Modellers and Scripters needed) 1.0 Beta out!

[Cuireach]

Playing this game with the original film music by Basil Poledouris will be awesome.
Obviously I would only be using the music for my own benefit before any one brings up copyright warnings.

 

[eljeffe418]

I'm working on getting the new items into the game now. Once I do, I think I will release a .1 beta of the game.

edit: here we go. Pictish war club on the left and Aquilonian short sword on the right

 

[ENZED]

hmmm, the club looks good, but i think the sword needs to be scaled in BRF edit or something, it looks a little small.

im working on an Atlantis blade atm, i must say its my best model yet, but im getting some issues when i try to UV so ill try and sort it and texture it.

Preview

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/3570/Conan.jpg

hmmm, looks like i need to grow a brain, i lost this model too 

 

[ENZED]

ok, after thinking it over today, i have decided to start my own mod in a setting i don't want to disclose yet, in the next few weeks i will be stockpiling weapon materials and learning to texture, sorry for wasting your time eljeffe418, good luck with your mod.

 

[Redcoat-Mic]

Oh wow, great idea! I love Conan.
I wish you the best of luck with this one and hope at least something comes out of it.

 

[Cuireach]

For anyone wanting a Conan website link please see the following. It is pretty comprehensive.
http://www.conancompletist.com/EN/home.htm

 

[eljeffe418]

Also, You can get all the conan stories here:

http://www.gutenberg.net.au/plusfifty-a-m.html#letterH

just scroll down to Robert E Howard.


As an update,  I'm still trying to iron out some of the bugs. The sorcerer class is still glitchy as hell, so when I create a beta of the game I may disable it. However, I have implemented the ability to take over enemy cities. Now I have to change all the scenes so when you fight the enemies in town they won't spawn on top of buildings, behind walls, etc. I've added 5 new faces to the Picts.

 

[eljeffe418]

update: revamping core scripts so lords don't respawn when they're captured. Please bear with me.

 

[eljeffe418]

I have posted the beta installer on the unofficial file repository. You can download it here: https://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?cid=7&id=581

 

[zollid]

I'm a huge Conan fan and i am sure this mod is going to be great. One thing you should add is a Cimmerian(Conan's original people) Faction who roam the borders between Cimmeria and Aquilonia they should be playable. You must add lots and lots of references to Conan's earlyer adventures and some of our favorite villains like Thoth-Amon roaming the lands randomly.

 

[eljeffe418]

Yea I have a plan for cimmerians. In the finalized version you will meet them. As for infamous villians I didn't think of that, but it's a good idea. Since this mod takes place during the hour of the dragon story I could use the main sorcerer from that story, although I can't recall his name right now. Good idea.

 

[arcka]

I'm going to download it sounds fun going to check if it has the "last troop bug"but i bet it will be fun is it for 894  or just 892 and 893 and 890?

 

[Rattus]

Is that club modeled after the weapon in Age of Conan?

As I like the short stories by Ron E. Howard very much, I am not too fond of that design because it reminds me too much of south american cultures like the Maya or Azteks. In his stories, Howard rather describes the Picts as a primitive tribal culture, very much like real "Picts" the romans encountered in britain, with a slight touch of native north american influences.
Also, that weapon rather looks like a ritual weapon and not something used in actual combat weapon.

But after all, I guess it depends on what you want to achive: a rather realistic hyborea, or a "fantasy" one, where designs of course can be over the top.

 

[zollid]

Will you use the design from the Comics or Howards description from the novels.
Is it possible for King Conan to join your party???

 

[eljeffe418]

Is that club modeled after the weapon in Age of Conan?

As I like the short stories by Ron E. Howard very much, I am not too fond of that design because it reminds me too much of south american cultures like the Maya or Azteks. In his stories, Howard rather describes the Picts as a primitive tribal culture, very much like real "Picts" the romans encountered in britain, with a slight touch of native north american influences.
Also, that weapon rather looks like a ritual weapon and not something used in actual combat weapon.

But after all, I guess it depends on what you want to achive: a rather realistic hyborea, or a "fantasy" one, where designs of course can be over the top.

Dude the picts are 100% native indians in REH's stories. they are in no way modeled after the actual picts in REH's works. Supposedly, some of the Conan stories about the picts were originally cowboy and indian stories that didn't sell so he remade them into his hyboria world.


To Zollid I used REH's stories and the Conan RPG as refences.

 

[Rattus]

I have read all of his published stories, and many fragments and I disagree that the Picts are "100%" native american by his accounts. Just to make my point a tad more clear, here are quotes from the wiki, which prove my point that picts were "Celts" with native american influences:

In 1919, when Howard was thirteen, Dr. Howard moved his family to the Central Texas hamlet of Cross Plains, and there the family would stay for the rest of Howard's life. That same year, sitting in a library in New Orleans while his father took medical courses at a nearby college, Howard discovered a book concerned with the scant fact and abundant legends surrounding a group of barbaric tribesmen in ancient Scotland called the Picts. Named for the tattoos they decorated themselves with and bitter enemies of encroaching Roman legions, the Picts fired Howard's imagination and crystallized in him a love for barbarians and outsiders from civilization who lived lives of great hardship and struggle but also great freedom and verve. From then on, the Picts became a muse of sorts, appearing in various guises throughout all the many genres Howard wrote in, and helping to thematically tie his work together.

Pictish Scotland, with an overlay of North America during the European colonization of the Americas, possibly even colonial-era New York. Howard bestows Algonquian languages names on many, though not all, of his Picts (see also: Bran Mak Morn). Note that the name "Pict" comes from the Latin language term for "painted one," which could be applicable to a number of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas. The historical termed Picts were a confederation of tribes in central and northern Scotland which bordered Roman Britain.

You are right that he converted some older, wild-west stories, but rather from a storyline point of few...

But don't get me wrong though, I don't want to "flame" your mod, I am really looking forward to it. It's just that firstly, I don't think that AoC does everything right design wise, and secondly that that weapon doesn't fit very well with both the north american native indian and the celts part. But finally, as it is your mod, you can do what you want anyways, and I'm gonna try it out if I find a way to purchase M&B without a credit card (in austria, paypal needs a cc too )

 

[eljeffe418]

Well, picts basically had three weapons; a bow, a club, and an axe, in all of the reference material i've read. I added the mace to spice things up. They also never wore armor, but I've given them some to make them more viable in combat.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just disagree, and unless I see a clear point that the Picts are not based completely on american preconceptions of the Native Indians I will continue to use how I read and interpret his stories as a base. I'd point you to beyond the black river as evidence.

But to each his own interpretation. You see Picts as Celts with Native Indian influences. I see them as Native Indians by another name.

 

[SwordMonkey]

This only works for 0.890?

 

[eljeffe418]

no, I run it on .893. I haven't tried it on .894

 

[Darian]

Dude the picts are 100% native indians in REH's stories.

“We'll carry the body into the fort ... we can't have Pictish devils making so cursed free with white men's heads.” The Picts were a white race, though swarthy, but the border men never spoke of them as such.

According to Roget's Thesaurus, "swarthy" means "Of a complexion tending toward brown or black". Indians are generally described as being "red" (hence the slang term "redskin") which doesn't fit within this colour spectrum, so I'm not sure Howard intended them to be perceived as American Indians.

EDIT: I found a forum thread debating the Picts' ethnicity. Fascinating stuff.