Compilation of 82 little tweaks to the text files to change your gameplay(links)

TheMageLord · Sep 29, 2008

*notice* For those of you new to M&B modding, the files you need to edit for these tweaks are in Mount&Blade\Modules\Native.

Since the list is getting so long, I thought it might be nice to organize it into sections.

Note: These may or may not be compatible with 1.010, I haven't had time to check any of them. Regardless, the 1.010 module system is now out - so making changes should be much easier now anyway

Also, heres the trading guide I posted. Not exactly a tweak, but I figured if I have it here too it will be easier to find

Trading Guide

Since 1.010 fixed the NO STRING error and the Dhirim Siege error, I'm removing the links to those.

Note: If you're trying to edit items, the easiest way to do it is to use jordan's item editor. It allows you to edit the items with an easy to use UI, and it really is a nice program.
-edit- Since the repository is down, I uploaded this to filefront. http://files.filefront.com/itemeditorzip/;12103247;/fileinfo.html

Ringwraith #5 · Sep 29, 2008

Nice. Just don't forget to update whenver you post another one, kay?

Kolaris · Sep 29, 2008

Are these 'fixes' save game compatible?

lumikant · Sep 29, 2008

I know the change I made to allow banner changes in camp was compatible between save games.

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,45617.0.html
Props to Vlad the Impaler

TheMageLord · Sep 29, 2008

All are save game compatible. The only one I'm not sure about is the cattle to villages one, I haven't really tested that one much - but I think it's save game compatible.

I just posted a new fix, but it's not a text file one so I guess I won't put it here.

It's a .sco file to fix the Dhirim siege. Oh, it's savegame compatible too

-edit- see the tweak itself to see if it's savegame compatible. Thought I should say that since they're getting pretty numerous and some might not be savegame compatible.

applepiepod · Sep 30, 2008

I fuxing love you.

How do you read the code and make the things applicable for 1.003?
Do you just read through it in notepad and know how to change it?
Did your parents read to you in binary or something?

!

I've done all the modifications you have, I'm hoping they work. (Haven't even gotten back into the game yet

CBCRonin · Oct 1, 2008

I just wanted to say thank you for the fixes you have contributed to the game. Mount and Blade has always been a tremendous amount of fun to play, so having the little "tweaks" to adjust the small "qwirks" of the non-combat features is greatly appreciated

..... and now you have even improved the combat portion with your siege tower fix

.

Sicnarf · Oct 1, 2008

Thanks alot it's nice to have all the tweaks in one place.

TheMageLord · Oct 1, 2008

The way I figure out what the 1.003 version text files are is to compare them with the .960 ones. Many of them are either the same or very similar. If they are then I can read the main numbers out of the .960 files, find them in the 1.003 files, and change them. Then I load up the game and run a quick test to make sure I didn't screw something up, and if it works I post it

The cattle spawning fix, for instance, is exactly the same as the one in .960. So I just looked up the relevant numbers in .960, found them in the 1.003 text files, and made a post with the important numbers highlighted.

silky7 · Oct 1, 2008

Magelord,

Just wanted to say thanks a ton for these!

Was able to tweak 1.03 to be a little more suited to my tastes with them.

Last thing I'd like to change is the contribution to speed from pathfinding. Any idea on that one?

TheMageLord · Oct 1, 2008

I'm not sure about the speed bonus, I think that *might* be hard coded - I couldn't find any script named speed or anything. If anyone knows where it's modified, I'd be happy to provide a little color coded guide for it - I just can't find it

silky7 · Oct 2, 2008

No worries, thanks again for checking. I have every confidence that if it exists outside the executable, you'll find it.

Oh, great new one on the siege inventory access too! Someone REALLY needs to get around to stickying your stuff.

Neptune · Oct 2, 2008

Where would the relations with towns/villages be, under the menus script? and would the recruitment values would be there as well, since they're both menu items? And quests, especially for villages, is it possible to edit how often they appear?

For those of us who hate how rare the villager money donation quest is, here's a 'fix' to ensure you can pay of those whiny villagers whenever you talk to them.

In the conversation.txt, look for the following lines

dlga_town_dweller_ask_situation:town_dweller_talk 4095 866 1 2147484209 3 144115188075856056 50 30 Times_are_hard,_{sir/madam}._We_work_hard_all_day_and_yet_we_go_to_sleep_hungry_most_nights. 857 0

dlga_town_dweller_ask_situation:town_dweller_talk.1 4095 866 1 2147484209 3 144115188075856056 50 70 Times_are_hard,_{sir/madam}._But_we_must_count_our_blessings. 857 0

Change the number in red (857) at the end of the line to 867, so it looks like

dlga_town_dweller_ask_situation:town_dweller_talk 4095 866 1 2147484209 3 144115188075856056 50 30 Times_are_hard,_{sir/madam}._We_work_hard_all_day_and_yet_we_go_to_sleep_hungry_most_nights. 867 0

dlga_town_dweller_ask_situation:town_dweller_talk.1 4095 866 1 2147484209 3 144115188075856056 50 70 Times_are_hard,_{sir/madam}._But_we_must_count_our_blessings. 867 0

Instead of closing the conversation after they talk, it directs you to the option of paying them 300 denars to help them out. However, I don't know if it's possible to change the value your local renown goes up, because I can't find the number that controls it.

TheMageLord · Oct 2, 2008

The amount of days to not repeat a quest is in the get_random_quest script, but each one is set individually - so you'll have to change each one that you want to.

Just open the scripts.txt file and search for 2133 2 1224979098644774938 (the first one is in the appropriate script). The first one you'll find will have a 0 following it, that's where the variable is initially set (so don't change that one). I'll list the results you'll find, with the default number so you can find the ones you want to change. These numbers are the number of days it takes before the quest will repeat.

1. initially set, 0
Village quests:
2. village grain delivery, 20
3. village cattle delivery, 20
4. train villagers against bandits, 40
Mayor quests:
5. Deliver wine/ale to town, 20
6. troublesome bandits, 30
7. kidnapped girl, 30
8. move cattle herd, 20
9. persuade to make peace, 100
10. deal with looters, 30
11. deal with night bandits, 15
Lady quests
12. rescue prisoner lord, 73
13. deliver message to prisoner lord, 30
14. duel for lady, 50
Enemy lord quests
15. Lend surgeon, 50
Lord quests
16. Meet spy in enemy town, 50
17. Raid caravan to start war, 100
18. Escort lady, 30
19. Raise troops, 15
20. Collect taxes, 20
21. Hunt down fugitive, 30
22. Kill local merchant, 30
23. Bring back serfs, 20
24. Follow spy, 50
25. Capture enemy lord, 80
26. Lend companion, 30
27. Collect debt, 20
28. Incriminate loyal commander, 180
29. Capture prisoners, 20

Just go to get_random_quest and start searching for 2133 2 1224979098644774938, all the instances you find should be followed directly by the number on that list. Then just find the right instance of it to edit for whichever quest you want to repeat more often and change it. This is savegame compatible.

Have fun.

-edit- If you're looking for the caravan quest, the reason it isn't in the list is it doesn't have a repeat timer. If for some reason you want to add one (maybe you don't LIKE caravans, and want to limit it to once a year or something) see the bottom of this post. And by doing this, further my evil plan to take over the world! Mwahahaha.

Tachyon · Oct 2, 2008

TheMageLord said:
I thought it might be nice to have the 5 little text file tweaks that I've posted in random places all stuck in one thread to make them easy to find. So:

1. Change to make cattle follow instead of run

2. Info about changing the way villages get cattle

3. Change Morale and Party Size (still works in 1.003)

4. Adjusting tournament bet amounts

5. Editing the escape rate of lords

It's Do it Yourself modding

-edit- More!
6. Editing to allow inventory access during sieges.

7. Change AI lord's maximum party size. (same thread as 3 above)

8. Disabling companion interaction (have as many as you like)

9. Modify the timer on repeating quests, repeat them sooner! (Yes, I just linked you to the bottom of this page. Heh heh...)

Also, heres the trading guide I posted. Not exactly a tweak, but I figured if I have it here too it will be easier to find
Trading Guide

I propose that this thread be Stickied!

HardCode · Oct 2, 2008

TheMageLord is awesome!

kazuma · Oct 2, 2008

Very awesome! I second the sticky.

allthesedamnnamesaretaken · Oct 2, 2008

I got another tweak for you in scripts.txt to increase the taxes you get from fiefs. Do a search for "do_merchant_town_trade" and you'll see this:

do_merchant_town_trade -1
20 21 1 1224979098644774912 22 1 1224979098644774913 1 4 936748722493063420 1224979098644774912 1224979098644774913 20 2133 2 1224979098644774914 72057594037927936 2108 2 1224979098644774914 2 2330 2 1 1224979098644774912 2330 2 2 1224979098644774913 2133 2 72057594037927937 1224979098644774914 521 3 1224979098644774915 1224979098644774913 48 521 3 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774913 50 2120 3 1224979098644774917 1224979098644774916 10 2107 2 1224979098644774917 1224979098644774914 2108 2 1224979098644774917 2200 2105 2 1224979098644774915 1224979098644774917 501 3 1224979098644774913 48 1224979098644774915 4 0 2136 3 1224979098644774918 0 100 2147483678 2 1224979098644774918 35 1 3 936748722493063465 1224979098644774913 1 3 0

The number in bold is the divisor for calculating TRADE tax revenues (when farmer and caravans trade with your fief). Basically, the smaller the number, the more trade taxes you receive.

Lowering this number will have a very large impact on the taxes you can get from owning TOWNS, but not so much for villages, and not at all for castles. For example, I changed it from 2200 to 110 and tested 2 weeks o fincome in Ichamur. First week i got 33000 denars, and the 2nd week I got 16000 denars. As you can see, your income can fluctuate wildly if caravans don't go to, or make it to your fief because of attacks.

However, this isn't the only thing that affects fief income. There is also rents that you collect, which is guaranteed income, but that's a little more difficult to track down and change because it's in triggers.txt. For now, I'm going to tweak this number so owning a town can actually let you afford a large army to protect it with 3-400+ troops.

This will also give you added incentives to PROTECT CARAVANS headed to your town!

TheMageLord · Oct 2, 2008

Heres another one kind of related to the quest timers one. If you turn down a mission, the game sets a slot of that troop to not give you any more quests. For lords and ladies, this is fine - every 36 hours it goes through and resets them all to 0. But on village elders, theres no trigger to set it back - so they will NEVER give you a quest again. This tweak simply changes the check that's done to throw off the thing and make them always offer you quests. It can be done for lords & ladies too if you like, but they sometimes have penalties associated with turning down quests other than just not giving you one again for 36 hours - so you probably wouldn't want to keep asking and turning them down anyway.

Open up conversation.txt and do a search for

1 540 3 144115188075855885 20 1

That should find 3 instances total in the file. The first is under lord_request_mission_ask, and that deals with lords. The second is under lady_ask_for_quest, and (obviously) it deals with ladies. The third is the village elder one - village_elder_request_mission_ask (which is the one that I primarily made this tweak for). You can change just one or all three, whatever you like.

All you have to do is change the 1 to a 2 or 3 or anything but 0 or 1. I just set mine to 2. What this does is: When it tries to go to that conversation, it checks for the slot to be set to that number. By default it's set to 0, and when you turn down a quest it sets that slot to 1 - so the default 1 makes it come up once you have refused a quest. If you set it to check for 2, it will never come up because nothing ever sets it to 2. And if that one doesn't come up, the next one does - which is the one that actually offers a quest.

Thus you can then refuse a village elder quest without making him stop giving you quests forever.

Lionheart X · Oct 2, 2008

I second that, this thread needs to be stickied!!!

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