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Good Idea! What about KURWAE  :lol:

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You are playing in a non-profitting community which are mostly being ran by certain people who also does all this stuff from organizing tournaments to every hell bit of management just so; firstly, to entertain you. (Which you obviously do.) and one day, to make it possible so M&B series can become an e-Sports, and then you have this team representing one of the bests in the scene, with a name obviously not fine, a ******** bad word without a doubt.

How can you expect to be even tolerated, let alone allowed in such an environment with professional aims?
 
Efe Karacar 说:
You are playing in a non-profitting community which are mostly being ran by certain people who also does all this stuff from organizing tournaments to every hell bit of management just so; firstly, to entertain you. (Which you obviously do.) and one day, to make it possible so M&B series can become an e-Sports, and then you have this team representing one of the bests in the scene, with a name obviously not fine, a ******** bad word without a doubt.

How can you expect to be even tolerated, let alone allowed in such an environment with professional aims?

Yeeeeeeeee.

WNL Admins allowed us to use KURWA as clantag. If they didn't, we wouldn't.
Why did they do that? Stated in first post.  :party:
 
Personally, I don't believe names our against being e sports. If you really want to make Warband e-sport, you need to change something more important. For example, current Tournaments are not official. People who volunteers make these stuff. Or there is no official multiplayer system for this game. If the multiplayer system will be the same as Warband in Bannerlord, then I have no hope these games will be e-sports.
Also, the best e-sports also have inappropriate names. I remember some csgo player named swag, he was playing in official tournaments.
And yeah, as bomba told already, admins already accepted KURWA's name, so let it be! :*
 
If the tournament admins allowed the name, it's childish to start an action to censor the word on your own as MnBCompetitive is doing right now.
 
Obviously MnBCompetitive refuses to use the word "KURWA", so you can either accept the work they do for the community or keep arguing until they eventually stop doing it.
 
Surkan 说:
Obviously MnBCompetitive refuses to use the word "KURWA", so you can either accept the work they do for the community or keep arguing until they eventually stop doing it.

I myself enjoy the work they do for the community alot, but Kurwa is also part of the community  :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
 
CS:GO player named Rape
x MB:W team named KURWA

Non-consensual sex
x Consensual sex

Hmm...
 
Trying to bully someone else into using bigoted language is not in any way OK. 

Using language which perpetuates oppression is not in any way OK.

For those who do not understand when it is Ok to use the r-word here is a handy chart...

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The clan name in question is the deliberate and intentional use of a derogatory word that inherently demeans and marginalises women.  Such words have no place in in any space that intends, or claims, to be equally accepting of women. 

Anyone needs the arguments for why this is the case can always look up the information.  Here is a small sample:
Terms that are inherently derogatory of women who display sexual agency are based on the bigotry of the sexist double standard “men are allowed to engage in coitus for any reason–women only if in love or engaged” (Tanenbaum, p. 5:cool:.  Using those terms reinforces the double standard in society and contributes to our culture of inequality, therefore using those terms is a sexist act.

It has been suggested here that when a word that is inherently bigoted becomes a more generalised term of abuse that makes it less problematic.  However, by using a word as a term of abuse the implication inherent in the usage is that the thing itself is has a negative consequence. Using a term for women who exhibit sexual agency as a general term of abuse is more sexist than using it specifically of a woman.  It doubles down on the words usage in demeaning and marginalising women.

Another suggestion is that the use of the word was not intended as a sexist act.  But that is irrelevant to the discussion.  Anyone can use a derogatory word in ignorance of its real meaning or the ongoing damage it does.  But they can only claim innocence if when they realise it is problematic they stop using it. It doesn’t matter whether anyone intended a sexist act, is sexist or was accidentally sexist.  Since they now know using such a word shows a basic lack of respect for women the only right thing to do is to stop using it.  We all have unexamined prejudices; it is only shameful if we push back when they are pointed out to us.

An example of how to respond
https://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/feminism-friday-on-*****-and-other-misogynist-language/
I’m reminded of an exchange I had with Bill soon after he started posting at Shakes. He used something (way less obvious than an overt slur) to which I objected in one of his posts, and I asked him to please remove it. Here’s how he responded: He said, approximately, “Thanks. I don’t always notice stuff like that, and I’m trying to be more sensitive to it, so I appreciate your letting me know.” That’s it. I can’t even begin to tell you how much I respected him for that, how profoundly appreciative I was of his utter lack of defensiveness. And if you want to know what a swell dude he really is, he removed it from the post at his own blog, too.

And just because this video series is rational and right
 
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