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[PLtGarm]

Led I've never agreed with you on that post but since you are once again trying to weasel your way out of something you did I'll lay it all out. I have proof of you. What do you have? Also, you're forgetting a lot of people whom you didn't recruit. Once again trying to take credit for what others did. And as for the 79th? They asked me to ban you because you kept on trolling my line and not only that saying bs to us in said line battles and their teamspeak (but since you don't seem to care after being warned they INVITED me to their teamspeak and asked if I wanted the honor in banning you). They want nothing to do with you for a reason Zeppelin. If you keep on trolling, your regiment will ultimately fail based on the proof provided against you. Since this isn't about regiment flaming, I'll get back to the point. Led Zeppelin or (Nr20_Oberst_ZeppelinPanda) has been doing nothing but saying horrible things about my regiment in US1 and the NEC events. In fact he was banned once already in the NEC event as well as at least twice in US1 for the things he's said and done. I don't care what regiment accepts you Zeppelin. But the fact is that when you go into another regiments teamspeak the only thing you do in there is talk trash about the Nr 11, Mr. Snake in the Grass. You also do it in US 1 to try and take recruits, never in my days of playing warband or NW have I ever seen a leader of a clan or regiment act in the way you do. You are an embarrassment to this community Led. And I won't trouble myself further with your petty attempts at misleading other people about me or the Nr 11.

Proof:
Exhibit A http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/559829425201149920/9823881FFC96554F15AC4B4F0C32A2D8480EE17C/ Things he says to our members.

 

[LedZepp1109]

I would like to address an issue with a Non com that was DD'ed from our regiment (Dishonorably Discharged). He was caught trying to recruit members for other regiments, spamming Official US 1 with recruitment messages and then threatened to steal our members from our own regiment if we didn't give him the rank of Feldwebel (Sgt. Major). Because of this we DD'ed him and that was yesterday. Today I see on the Mercs for Napoleonic Wars as well as the Regimental Leaders group I see this same announcement come up.

"Hello Ladies and Gents, I felt it my moral obligation to come here today and to fill everyone in one what exactly goes on in the Nr11 so that you know whether or not you want to be associated with them at all.

The Nr11 is led by 3 friends, Eidelon, Lord Hienrich, and Ceol. They make all the decisions regarding promotions, line battles, events etc. Eid, Lawrence (who left), and myself were technically the first people to start the regiment though.

So over the past 2 months I have personally recruited over 50+ members (some of which did leave, but 39 of which have stayed), have set up multiple line battles, led trainings, personally trained people, gone to all events, all trainings, and much much more. And what did I ask for? I asked for officer, because I felt that I deserved as much and I also wanted it so that I could further help the regiment (IE: being able to step out of line to observe people to help with line formations, being able to lead trainings in the server when others weren't on, posting announcments, etc.). Upon approaching Eid on the subject he just battered me with comments such as "your opinion doesn't matter" and "if you hadn't done it someone else would". And so a week after that discussion I started to feel completely un-appreciated and decided I should let the officers know I was considering leaving and with me taking my friends. So upon hearing this the leader swiftly kicked me from the regiment without discussing anything with me at all, bad mouthed me while I was not in the teamspeak, and then banned me from the teamspeak.

Since this event (last night) I have spoken with many people from the regiment who are either leaving because of this, or who agree that the leadership is corrupt and that Eidelon is essentially a complete *** for what he did.

So I thought I should share this story with the leaders of this community so that you may know who you're getting involved with when you decide to associate yourselves with the Nr11."

This is the post he sent. You can see it on the Mercs for Napoleonic Wars page in the announcements. He is obviously raging over the fact of the DD and I would just like to state what is actually happening rather than what he is saying. He has lied as to leading trainings and scheduling lbs. And of said 50 members he has recruited about 8 of which have actually done anything with the regiment. The rest are just sitting in our group as we're still trying to figure out who's who and clean up our roster. We have lost no members except for two who have agreed to leave with Zeppelin. No one has left since and we are still here regardless of his attempts to still steal our members through his underhanded tactics. I have convo's from different members of my regiment showing that he's trying his best to disgrace the name of the Nr 11. And I believe this is now a community issue since he's posting it in Community groups. I will not recommend a course of action but please do what you see fit. Thanks for your time and consideration in reading this post, and have a wonderful day.

Edit: He has now gone so far to start saying things on my youtube channel where I earn a small income from. I think this has gone a bit too far.

The post above me is simply invalid, not even going to go into it but it's just not true. I've already discussed this with him since then and he agreed with what I said so his entire post is contradicting what he agreed with me on verbally. This is their third or fourth post attempting to tarnish my name and I'm hoping no one is buying into this nonsense. Edit: I'm only going to bash one point of his post just because it kind of irks me that he would say this, the Nr11 now has about 30 active members all of which I recruited except 2 (hobo, corn popper). I'd continue pointing out the multiple flaws in his thread but I think with that fact alone you all already know this is moronic.

If for whatever reason the actual truth interests you (which isn't pretty) feel free to contact Led Zeppelin Panda on steam for the story. But in the end of the day folks it's just a bad leader who doesn't appreciate the people that contribute most towards his regiment.

Edit: Since this event they have tried bribing my friendship with another regiment using their own connections with that regiment. Heinrich in particular tried banning me from their teamspeak and from mercing for them on the basis that my relationship with the Nr11 isn't strong (for what are now obvious reasons). So these aren't good people we are dealing with here, they are snakes who go around (on the forums of all places) spreading trash about their former members like this and then try ruining their relationships with other regiments.

tl;dr Moar regimental drama.

Led I've never agreed with you on that post but since you are once again trying to weasel your way out of something you did I'll lay it all out. I have proof of you. What do you have? Also, you're forgetting a lot of people whom you didn't recruit. Once again trying to take credit for what others did. And as for the 79th? They asked me to ban you because you kept on trolling my line and not only that saying bs to us in said line battles and their teamspeak (but since you don't seem to care after being warned they INVITED me to their teamspeak and asked if I wanted the honor in banning you). They want nothing to do with you for a reason Zeppelin. If you keep on trolling, your regiment will ultimately fail based on the proof provided against you. Since this isn't about regiment flaming, I'll get back to the point. Led Zeppelin or (Nr20_Oberst_ZeppelinPanda) has been doing nothing but saying horrible things about my regiment in US1 and the NEC events. In fact he was banned once already in the NEC event as well as at least twice in US1 for the things he's said and done. I don't care what regiment accepts you Zeppelin. But the fact is that when you go into another regiments teamspeak the only thing you do in there is talk trash about the Nr 11, Mr. Snake in the Grass. You also do it in US 1 to try and take recruits, never in my days of playing warband or NW have I ever seen a leader of a clan or regiment act in the way you do. You are an embarrassment to this community Led. And I won't trouble myself further with your petty attempts at misleading other people about me or the Nr 11.

Clearly what you say on the forums is entirely different then what was actually said, but no matter. Even if you didn't "agree" with what I said in that post, it doesn't really matter because I have evidence to back up the trainings the lb's the recruitment etc. So disagree all you want brother. Well and yes Heinrich you do indeed have plenty of proof of me asking people from the Nr11 to join, I won't deny this but as previously stated I would have liked some of my friends to come with me. No I don't believe I'm forgetting anyone Mr. Heinrich, perhaps you could enlighten me by listing some names (back up your statement). Yes perhaps you're right, I discussed it with Asian and it was all just a big misconception. But as for the flaming in events, you started it by insulting my regiment in front of 200 people. Regarding the supposed "trolling", yes I joined your line momentarily during pre event trainings and if that's considered trolling I apologize, however Asian wasn't happy with me based on the misconception that I had attempted to recruit members from the 9e while I knew it was still a fully formed regiment. In response to the whole "I talked bad about the Nr11 on US1" first of all, likewise, and second of all I only told people the truth and only told it to them if they asked for it. Yes I have been banned on US1 because of disagreements with administrators on the server (not even going there). I was banned once in the NEC event for joining your line when relationships were still okay (NOTE: did not troll during this event, simply followed the line under different tags). Clearly you DO care which regiment "accepts me" because otherwise you wouldn't be so eager to ban me yourself (which by the way the ban has been reversed) Actually the only regiment I've ever discussed the Nr11 with at all (which was little anyway) was with the 9e, but that's mostly because you brought them into it all (and trust me I'm involved with a lot of other regiments). I tell your recruits about my experience, yes. And in all my days in NW I've never seen someone come into a teamspeak and call them things like **** or telling them to go **** themselves or calling them a piece of ****, it shows that you've stooped to that level of immaturity to say something like that (Should have recorded it, but unlike you I don't record every conversation I have with you because I'm not an ass). Heinrich I am not an embarrassment to the community, and neither are you, and you and I both know this. And everything I have said thus far regarding the Nr11 is true, so I don't see how that's misleading. But as I said earlier Heinrich I will always remember our good times together, and I hold nothing against you. You out of the three leading the Nr11 were the only guy I liked and who I felt actually appreciated what I did. I know that you're taking my attacks on the Nr11 personally, but really you shouldn't be, because at the end of the day this is just a personal issue between me Eidelon and Ceol.

tl;dr Regimental drama, nothing to see here folks.

 

[PrideofNi]

Then stop posting it on this sticky'd thread - take it into a private place and resolve it if you can, if necessary PM one of the listed admins.

 

[Colnel. William Tavington]

Gotta love a bit of drama.

 

[McEwanMaster77]

Zep, "trolling" is when you post biased and disrespectful messages on someone else's public regimental thread, as you did on the Nr. 11 thread just yesterday. There, it has gone from being a

personal issue between me Eidelon and Ceol.

to a deliberate attack on the regiment and its members. People actually look at these threads. How would you like it if someone posted a bunch of bs in your regimental thread? If you're so justified in your "war" with Eidelon, keep it between you two. With this event, you are indeed becoming a troll and a, how you say, "embarrassment."

And before you say that Eidelon started the discussion and "entitled" you to respond on his thread, he was giving out a warning to the people who look at his thread about a legitimate issue. The issues Eidelon brought up are bannable without question. You had no place to respond and slander Eidelon's name and his regiment's. Don't go down that road.

 

[LedZepp1109]

Zep, "trolling" is when you post biased and disrespectful messages on someone else's public regimental thread, as you did on the Nr. 11 thread just yesterday. There, it has gone from being a

personal issue between me Eidelon and Ceol.

to a deliberate attack on the regiment and its members. People actually look at these threads. How would you like it if someone posted a bunch of bs in your regimental thread? If you're so justified in your "war" with Eidelon, keep it between you two. With this event, you are indeed becoming a troll and a, how you say, "embarrassment."

And before you say that Eidelon started the discussion and "entitled" you to respond on his thread, he was giving out a warning to the people who look at his thread about a legitimate issue. The issues Eidelon brought up are bannable without question. You had no place to respond and slander Eidelon's name and his regiment's. Don't go down that road.

McEwan him bringing this to the forums would not be the first time he has made a private matter public. I'd like to clarify here that it was the Nr11 who first came to the forums and who first decided to talk bad about myself, which in turn made me look bad in front of the community when half of the story was yet to even be told. I'm not the kind to sit back and watch as others tarnish my reputation in front of the community. If he is going to go down the road of bribing other regiments to avoid me, and insulting my regiment and name in public events I will be responding. Honestly this is one topic you should just stay out of Ewan, there's lots of behind the scenes events that have taken place that would alter your opinion on the matter completely. The only reason this conversation is even being had here is because I was forced to speak up for myself, which you would have done the same in one way or another.
Also, for the record: If it was up to me, this whole situation would never have left the teamspeak the night I was kicked. However, Eidelon being Eidelon he (after lying to my friends and fellow regimental members) decided to ban me and then never speak on the matter again. Of course he later tried defending himself by also lying to his second in command that he had not banned me from the teamspeak and that he had planned to let me speak with him, so essentially what we are dealing with here is just a blatant liar. Although, admittedly his memory is quite poor as he does seem to forget the simplest of things. One does not simply kick out someone who dedicated 2 and half months and countless hours into their regiment, lie about them to his friends, not allow him to speak for himself, and then not expect repercussions. But I can't blame you for defending him, after all since he did get to the forums first it would seem as though he's in the right here which was clearly his intentions. Nice plan really, bash someone while they're unaware of it and then make up an intricate story to go along with it. So no, I don't blame you for siding with them here but as I said earlier this is just a personal matter made public, and the best way to move on is to just let it die.

tl;dr -_-

 

[McEwanMaster77]

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Zep, "trolling" is when you post biased and disrespectful messages on someone else's public regimental thread, as you did on the Nr. 11 thread just yesterday. There, it has gone from being a

personal issue between me Eidelon and Ceol.

to a deliberate attack on the regiment and its members. People actually look at these threads. How would you like it if someone posted a bunch of bs in your regimental thread? If you're so justified in your "war" with Eidelon, keep it between you two. With this event, you are indeed becoming a troll and a, how you say, "embarrassment."

And before you say that Eidelon started the discussion and "entitled" you to respond on his thread, he was giving out a warning to the people who look at his thread about a legitimate issue. The issues Eidelon brought up are bannable without question. You had no place to respond and slander Eidelon's name and his regiment's. Don't go down that road.

McEwan him bringing this to the forums would not be the first time he has made a private matter public. I'd like to clarify here that it was the Nr11 who first came to the forums and who first decided to talk bad about myself, which in turn made me look bad in front of the community when half of the story was yet to even be told. I'm not the kind to sit back and watch as others tarnish my reputation in front of the community. If he is going to go down the road of bribing other regiments to avoid me, and insulting my regiment and name in public events I will be responding. Honestly this is one topic you should just stay out of Ewan, there's lots of behind the scenes events that have taken place that would alter your opinion on the matter completely. The only reason this conversation is even being had here is because I was forced to speak up for myself, which you would have done the same in one way or another.

Was going to send you my reply via PM, but then I realized the point of this thread was to discuss the problems, not avoid them.

The very reason why Eidelon made that first post on this thread was because you made a public announcement on the Mercs thread and the Regimental Leaders Steam group, which he nicely quoted for your review. You made the discussion public in the first place; in it, you slandered the Nr. 11's name, as well as insulted Eidelon himself. He isn't unjustified to bring the issue out in the open, as you did that yourself.

And if you knew me, you would know that I'm very neutral in discussions. I like to look at both sides and see which one I find to be the most justified. I don't doubt that your "behind the scenes events" would sway my opinions, one way or the other, but those are not for my ears. What I care about are the public things that can legitimately alter and even ruin the reputation of a person or a whole regiment. And from what I've seen so far, on this thread and the displays on others, I find Eidelon's position to be justified. I won't go into details, as that would take hours.

I hope you two work this out quickly, and if at all possible, quietly.

 

[LedZepp1109]

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Zep, "trolling" is when you post biased and disrespectful messages on someone else's public regimental thread, as you did on the Nr. 11 thread just yesterday. There, it has gone from being a

personal issue between me Eidelon and Ceol.

to a deliberate attack on the regiment and its members. People actually look at these threads. How would you like it if someone posted a bunch of bs in your regimental thread? If you're so justified in your "war" with Eidelon, keep it between you two. With this event, you are indeed becoming a troll and a, how you say, "embarrassment."

And before you say that Eidelon started the discussion and "entitled" you to respond on his thread, he was giving out a warning to the people who look at his thread about a legitimate issue. The issues Eidelon brought up are bannable without question. You had no place to respond and slander Eidelon's name and his regiment's. Don't go down that road.

McEwan him bringing this to the forums would not be the first time he has made a private matter public. I'd like to clarify here that it was the Nr11 who first came to the forums and who first decided to talk bad about myself, which in turn made me look bad in front of the community when half of the story was yet to even be told. I'm not the kind to sit back and watch as others tarnish my reputation in front of the community. If he is going to go down the road of bribing other regiments to avoid me, and insulting my regiment and name in public events I will be responding. Honestly this is one topic you should just stay out of Ewan, there's lots of behind the scenes events that have taken place that would alter your opinion on the matter completely. The only reason this conversation is even being had here is because I was forced to speak up for myself, which you would have done the same in one way or another.

Was going to send you my reply via PM, but then I realized the point of this thread was to discuss the problems, not avoid them.

The very reason why Eidelon made that first post on this thread was because you made a public announcement on the Mercs thread and the Regimental Leaders Steam group, which he nicely quoted for your review. You made the discussion public in the first place; in it, you slandered the Nr. 11's name, as well as insulted Eidelon himself. He isn't unjustified to bring the issue out in the open, as you did that yourself.

And if you knew me, you would know that I'm very neutral in discussions. I like to look at both sides and see which one I find to be the most justified. I don't doubt that your "behind the scenes events" would sway my opinions, one way or the other, but those are not for my ears. What I care about are the public things that can legitimately alter and even ruin the reputation of a person or a whole regiment. And from what I've seen so far, on this thread and the displays on others, I find Eidelon's position to be justified. I won't go into details, as that would take hours.

I hope you two work this out quickly, and if at all possible, quietly.

Well I think forums are a different matter entirely than steam groups but, meh. If Eidelon had just discussed this with me before he kicked me out or even after! I would have been perfectly content, however instead of doing that he lied to my friends (which I couldn't counter since he banned me from the teamspeak before I could say anything) and then kicked me out of the regiment I've spent half my time in NW in 500 hours (give or take). I did everything I could possibly do to help out that regiment, and he spit in my face and kicked me out. I wasn't going to simply let that go, at the time I wanted to somehow voice what had happened to me yes. I built him the foundations for that regiment and then some, and what did I get for that? I get kicked out and BANNED from the teamspeak, and then made a mockery of. But I will refer to my previous statement, forums have a much larger audience and are here for much longer than group posts which is why this is far more severe. Perhaps I would have let his little post on his regimental thread slide, but when he had Heinrich bring these matters here that crossed the line.

tl;dr What comes around goes around.

 

[McEwanMaster77]

Now you're getting into the "why did this happen?" and "why did you do this?" stuff, which you should discuss with Eidelon directly. Have a discussion with him over Steam, calmly and maturely. Get to the heart of the problem, and focus on that. Forget the stuff that came after; it won't help. If you successfully work out the problem, you could actually be in good relations with each other. Just try that one more time.

EDIT: Got rid of the glitchy quote stuff. 

 

[LedZepp1109]

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Zep, "trolling" is when you post biased and disrespectful messages on someone else's public regimental thread, as you did on the Nr. 11 thread just yesterday. There, it has gone from being a

personal issue between me Eidelon and Ceol.

to a deliberate attack on the regiment and its members. People actually look at these threads. How would you like it if someone posted a bunch of bs in your regimental thread? If you're so justified in your "war" with Eidelon, keep it between you two. With this event, you are indeed becoming a troll and a, how you say, "embarrassment."

And before you say that Eidelon started the discussion and "entitled" you to respond on his thread, he was giving out a warning to the people who look at his thread about a legitimate issue. The issues Eidelon brought up are bannable without question. You had no place to respond and slander Eidelon's name and his regiment's. Don't go down that road.

McEwan him bringing this to the forums would not be the first time he has made a private matter public. I'd like to clarify here that it was the Nr11 who first came to the forums and who first decided to talk bad about myself, which in turn made me look bad in front of the community when half of the story was yet to even be told. I'm not the kind to sit back and watch as others tarnish my reputation in front of the community. If he is going to go down the road of bribing other regiments to avoid me, and insulting my regiment and name in public events I will be responding. Honestly this is one topic you should just stay out of Ewan, there's lots of behind the scenes events that have taken place that would alter your opinion on the matter completely. The only reason this conversation is even being had here is because I was forced to speak up for myself, which you would have done the same in one way or another.

Was going to send you my reply via PM, but then I realized the point of this thread was to discuss the problems, not avoid them.

The very reason why Eidelon made that first post on this thread was because you made a public announcement on the Mercs thread and the Regimental Leaders Steam group, which he nicely quoted for your review. You made the discussion public in the first place; in it, you slandered the Nr. 11's name, as well as insulted Eidelon himself. He isn't unjustified to bring the issue out in the open, as you did that yourself.

And if you knew me, you would know that I'm very neutral in discussions. I like to look at both sides and see which one I find to be the most justified. I don't doubt that your "behind the scenes events" would sway my opinions, one way or the other, but those are not for my ears. What I care about are the public things that can legitimately alter and even ruin the reputation of a person or a whole regiment. And from what I've seen so far, on this thread and the displays on others, I find Eidelon's position to be justified. I won't go into details, as that would take hours.

I hope you two work this out quickly, and if at all possible, quietly.

Well I think forums are a different matter entirely than steam groups but, meh. If Eidelon had just discussed this with me before he kicked me out or even after! I would have been perfectly content, however instead of doing that he lied to my friends (which I couldn't counter since he banned me from the teamspeak before I could say anything) and then kicked me out of the regiment I've spent half my time in NW in 500 hours (give or take). I did everything I could possibly do to help out that regiment, and he spit in my face and kicked me out. I wasn't going to simply let that go, at the time I wanted to somehow voice what had happened to me yes. I built him the foundations for that regiment and then some, and what did I get for that? I get kicked out and BANNED from the teamspeak, and then made a mockery of. But I will refer to my previous statement, forums have a much larger audience are here for much longer than group posts which is why this is far more severe. Perhaps I would have let his little post on his regimental thread slide, but when he had Heinrich bring these matters here that crossed the line.

tl;dr What comes around goes around.

Now you're getting into the "why did this happen?" and "why did you do this?" stuff, which you should discuss with Eidelon directly. Have a discussion with him over Steam, calmly and maturely. Get to the heart of the problem, and focus on that. Forget the stuff that came after; it won't help. If you successfully work out the problem, you could actually be in good relations with each other. Just try that one more time.

I attempted to mend things with them at one point (although Eidelon wouldn't give me his precious time of day) they sent Heinrich to discuss with me ending the feud. After telling him I wanted to end the pointless back and forth, he told me he didn't think I was being genuine and then told me to get back to him when I was. So essentially, he didn't want the peace that he was being offered. There's no reasoning with Eidelon, because Eidelon is always right and everyone else is always wrong. Have you talked to the guy? He even speaks to everyone in this demeaning tone, that, in itself, implies some feeling of hierarchy over everyone else. He's not the kind you reason with, plain and simple. And honestly, even if he were I'm not so sure I ever want to be in good terms with someone that treats people like that. I have no problem countering whatever lies they have to post on the forums, because quite frankly it doesn't really bother me. I know what happened, and no amount of trying to convince me otherwise is going to change that. They have played dirty ever since this started (IE: recording every conversation I have with them, broadcasting them yelling at me and not allowing me to speak, to their members (attempting to belittle me even further), bribing the 9e that they would cut ties with them if they didn't stop letting me merc for them, etc.) These are just downright awful people in my opinion, and I don't like to associate myself with that.

 

[McEwanMaster77]

And this is the stuff you want to be stopped. The only way to truly end it is to work out the heart of the problem, with him. Saying more potentially insulting opinions, like you just have at the end of your post, certainly won't help the discussion, and will block your mind's voice of reason. Using Steam is good, because it prevents any condescending tones or anything of the like, which would corrupt the respect of the discussion. Trust me; a respectful and calmed state of mind really, really helps. Like I said before: forget the stuff that happened after the true problem, and focus on the heart of the issue.

If you go through with the discussion with Eidelon and the other Nr. 11 leaders, remember: keep on track, and try your best to omit any curses and accusations. They will do no good. If you even need a "referee" of sorts to be present in your discussion, feel free to call on me. I'll see what i can do.

 

[LedZepp1109]

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Zep, "trolling" is when you post biased and disrespectful messages on someone else's public regimental thread, as you did on the Nr. 11 thread just yesterday. There, it has gone from being a

personal issue between me Eidelon and Ceol.

to a deliberate attack on the regiment and its members. People actually look at these threads. How would you like it if someone posted a bunch of bs in your regimental thread? If you're so justified in your "war" with Eidelon, keep it between you two. With this event, you are indeed becoming a troll and a, how you say, "embarrassment."

And before you say that Eidelon started the discussion and "entitled" you to respond on his thread, he was giving out a warning to the people who look at his thread about a legitimate issue. The issues Eidelon brought up are bannable without question. You had no place to respond and slander Eidelon's name and his regiment's. Don't go down that road.

McEwan him bringing this to the forums would not be the first time he has made a private matter public. I'd like to clarify here that it was the Nr11 who first came to the forums and who first decided to talk bad about myself, which in turn made me look bad in front of the community when half of the story was yet to even be told. I'm not the kind to sit back and watch as others tarnish my reputation in front of the community. If he is going to go down the road of bribing other regiments to avoid me, and insulting my regiment and name in public events I will be responding. Honestly this is one topic you should just stay out of Ewan, there's lots of behind the scenes events that have taken place that would alter your opinion on the matter completely. The only reason this conversation is even being had here is because I was forced to speak up for myself, which you would have done the same in one way or another.

Was going to send you my reply via PM, but then I realized the point of this thread was to discuss the problems, not avoid them.

The very reason why Eidelon made that first post on this thread was because you made a public announcement on the Mercs thread and the Regimental Leaders Steam group, which he nicely quoted for your review. You made the discussion public in the first place; in it, you slandered the Nr. 11's name, as well as insulted Eidelon himself. He isn't unjustified to bring the issue out in the open, as you did that yourself.

And if you knew me, you would know that I'm very neutral in discussions. I like to look at both sides and see which one I find to be the most justified. I don't doubt that your "behind the scenes events" would sway my opinions, one way or the other, but those are not for my ears. What I care about are the public things that can legitimately alter and even ruin the reputation of a person or a whole regiment. And from what I've seen so far, on this thread and the displays on others, I find Eidelon's position to be justified. I won't go into details, as that would take hours.

I hope you two work this out quickly, and if at all possible, quietly.

Well I think forums are a different matter entirely than steam groups but, meh. If Eidelon had just discussed this with me before he kicked me out or even after! I would have been perfectly content, however instead of doing that he lied to my friends (which I couldn't counter since he banned me from the teamspeak before I could say anything) and then kicked me out of the regiment I've spent half my time in NW in 500 hours (give or take). I did everything I could possibly do to help out that regiment, and he spit in my face and kicked me out. I wasn't going to simply let that go, at the time I wanted to somehow voice what had happened to me yes. I built him the foundations for that regiment and then some, and what did I get for that? I get kicked out and BANNED from the teamspeak, and then made a mockery of. But I will refer to my previous statement, forums have a much larger audience are here for much longer than group posts which is why this is far more severe. Perhaps I would have let his little post on his regimental thread slide, but when he had Heinrich bring these matters here that crossed the line.

tl;dr What comes around goes around.

Now you're getting into the "why did this happen?" and "why did you do this?" stuff, which you should discuss with Eidelon directly. Have a discussion with him over Steam, calmly and maturely. Get to the heart of the problem, and focus on that. Forget the stuff that came after; it won't help. If you successfully work out the problem, you could actually be in good relations with each other. Just try that one more time.

I attempted to mend things with them at one point (although Eidelon wouldn't give me his precious time of day) they sent Heinrich to discuss with me ending the feud. After telling him I wanted to end the pointless back and forth, he told me he didn't think I was being genuine and then told me to get back to him when I was. So essentially, he didn't want the peace that he was being offered. There's no reasoning with Eidelon, because Eidelon is always right and everyone else is always wrong. Have you talked to the guy? He even speaks to everyone in this demeaning tone, that, in itself, implies some feeling of hierarchy over everyone else. He's not the kind you reason with, plain and simple. And honestly, even if he were I'm not so sure I ever want to be in good terms with someone that treats people like that. I have no problem countering whatever lies they have to post on the forums, because quite frankly it doesn't really bother me. I know what happened, and no amount of trying to convince me otherwise is going to change that. They have played dirty ever since this started (IE: recording every conversation I have with them, broadcasting them yelling at me and not allowing me to speak, to their members (attempting to belittle me even further), bribing the 9e that they would cut ties with them if they didn't stop letting me merc for them, etc.) These are just downright awful people in my opinion, and I don't like to associate myself with that.

Well thanks man, it's nice to hear that. I'll consider talking to him at a later date, but for now I need to kind of forget about it.

 

[McEwanMaster77]

Any time.

 

[romandude]

ignore the trolls and move on 

 

[McEwanMaster77]

ignore the trolls and move on 

Umm who are you addressing exactly?

 

[Murphy77]

ignore the trolls and move on 

Umm who are you addressing exactly?

It's stefiboy. Don't pay attention. ^^

 

[Father Jack]

Wait is Romandude Stefiboy?

 

[McEwanMaster77]

Wait is Romandude Stefiboy?

No he isn't. It's a name that some people started calling romandude after some spat in a regiment thread. It really should not have been brought up again, as it was inaccurate and disrespectful.

 

[Father Jack]

Ahh ok was a bit Confused there.

 

[romandude]

ignore the trolls and move on 

Umm who are you addressing exactly?

just addressing whoever the troll is in your perspective