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[OliESC]

With the nerfs normad bow is useless, dunno about khergit - surely worse than before but probably playable.

Nomad Bow didn't get nerfed at all. Khergit Bow got set on Nomad Bow level. You can find the calculations here

And people who think Nomad Bow is useless should keep in mind Sarranid teams use it too. And their lower Power Draw 5 skill even makes their Nomad Bow a bit less effective than for Vaegirs

 

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the point is that vaegir archer got nerfed. So if you have less damage in total you can not take a less damage equipment. alot of vaegir strats still bank on the archers hitting shots, so if you're not able to potentially 1 shot an enemy player with a headshot you're throwing.

Normad bow offers you literally nothing. You get to have additional gold to spend on boots, 2 better packs of arrows and a falcion which is all completly useless. You only need 1 pack of good arrows since you can have all archers glitch it for them. You get everyone a scimi if you know how to do drops, and the leg armor is not needed because you're supposed to be the faction with ranged pressure. So the money you 'gain' for taking a free bow is not really effective. If you buy khergit bow with best helmet you can 1 hit people with headshot. It's weaker now than it was before but it's still possible.

The difference to nids is simply the playstyle. Vaegir archers are supposed to carry, so you need every damage you can get. Sarranid plays more around the axe inf and the mobile cav, their archers have more of a supporting role. If sarranid had a bow available that could 1shot players, they'd use it too.

 

[OliESC]

the point is that vaegir archer got nerfed. So if you have less damage in total you can not take a less damage equipment. alot of vaegir strats still bank on the archers hitting shots, so if you're not able to potentially 1 shot an enemy player with a headshot you're throwing.

Normad bow offers you literally nothing. You get to have additional gold to spend on boots, 2 better packs of arrows and a falcion which is all completly useless. You only need 1 pack of good arrows since you can have all archers glitch it for them. You get everyone a scimi if you know how to do drops, and the leg armor is not needed because you're supposed to be the faction with ranged pressure. So the money you 'gain' for taking a free bow is not really effective. If you buy khergit bow with best helmet you can 1 hit people with headshot. It's weaker now than it was before but it's still possible.

Nomad bow didn't get nerfed! the damage bonus for each bow is limited to Power Draw requirement +4. This means the Nomad Bow is limited to Power Draw 6 anyway. It's the same like before. Khergit Bow got nerfed and set on Nomad Bow level. If you can easily do headshots with a Khergit Bow it should be possible with Nomad Bow too. (48,29 for Khergit compared to 46,32 for Nomad).

 

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Normad bow doesn't 1shot anyone but cavs without helmet so it's not viable. You can't easily 1shot someone with nerfed khergit bow anymore. Sometimes they die, sometimes they don't from what I've seen. Just having the chance of 1shotting is much more worth it than additional gear with no value.

 

[OliESC]

As you said too it totally depends on the playstyle. The Nomad Bow is faster and the Strong Bow used to be stronger. Now the Strong Bow is only a little bit stronger. When you think it's worth its low speed it's fine. Maybe this fits to your personal play style.  Everybody can check the numbers, do a few tests and decide for themselves. I just said the lower speed and higher price isn't balanced anymore regarding the little difference of damage.
If the player can buy a proper helmet or not defenitely makes a difference regarding getting headshotted. A strong bow archer can also buy normal arrows instead of barbed ones to get a bit better helmet too, but not enough for the best one. But ofc without barbed arrows the difference from Nomad Bow to Strong bow just becomes even smaller.
Vaegirs can also do the Sarranid fighting style. And the new stats also made Vaegir infs to the fastest melee fighters of the game. Vaegir Nomad Bow archers can also just support them. It all depends on the fighting style.

 

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Of course vaegirs can use nids fighting style, but it's alot worse. nids inf has much more kill pressure. Normad bow was pretty much never played and it'll remain the same, because the damage is just not enough. Doesn't matter how much better the other bows are.

It's a decend weapon considering u don't need to buy it, but when you have nothing u can spend the leftover money on there's no need to take it.

 

[Surkan]

tbh when im shooting i always take the nomad bow or default crossbow
id rather be able to land more hits

 

[Razer]

tbh when im shooting i always take the nomad bow or default crossbow
id rather be able to land more hits

That's why you're cav I guess