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You missed multiplayer, as a modder I agree with completing mod tools needs to be a high priority, but when MP gets 1 new Gamemode per year and 5 maps per year, it needs a little more focus, because it takes literal months for TW to get anything fixed
 
That's low and misleading. I bet he spent most of that forum year in a productive way. It is precisely that kind of time investment that makes you extra disappointed when you realize one of your favorite games doesn't have a bright future and you'll eventually need to move on.
 
@AxiosXiphos probably time to take a break. You're taking things to a personal level instead of debating the subject of this OP. Debate his assertion that TW doesn't care about the community but don't start posting about peoples time on the forums, it has nothing to do with the subject.

You posted the forum rules earlier, take note of them.

I've been in your position before and it is not the way.
 
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You have spent an entire year of your life to come to be a troll on this forum :confused:.

That's not funny mate - that's really quite sad.

If you don't want to discuss the game or the community you really need to find a better use of your time. Because you have spent a lot of your time on this earth to get to this point...

No wonder you are salty... imagine spending a whole year dedicated to discussing a community you despise. Like imagine if you honestly didn't like this game? You will have wasted around 1/65th of your entire life.

I guess it's easy to understand why you are so angry now. You could have completed a degree or something in that time. Wrote a book, become a professional athlete, travelled the world...

All you have to show for it is a salty comment on a video game forum...

I mean aside from the fact that the handful of mods he's created has added more depth & content to the game than an entire year of EA that TW has pushed out..... he has every right to be upset. Just my 2c.
 
I agree autoresolve should be disincentivized, but only a teeny tiny bit. After all, if autoresolve is so bad for the player that they never want to use it, why bother having it at all? Autoresolve should exist for battles the player knows they will win and would be bored to sit through, and in those situations, it shouldn't be returning nasty surprises like "10 looters killed, 4 T6 banner knights killed".
For what it's worth, I do auto-resolve in certain circumstances. What I never do is auto-resolve when I'm outnumbered, not even by looters unless it's only by a little. If anything, I'd say the consequences are rather light, but I'm okay with it as it is.

I should clarify a bit. I disagree and agree with you here more than I've let on. I disagree with you in that I think a T5 unit should be able to take on *five* T1 units on average, not just three (which is the current system); but also, that it doesn't need to be totally deterministic.
I'm just about to run out the door but when I get back I'll try to show you a pretty informative demonstration on the subject of facing off against multiple opponents. I used to actually think a dramatic skill defense would make a 1-vs-2 match possible, but the advantages offered by just one extra body in the fight can easily overcome the single fighter's skill and experience. When it came to 1-vs-3, it was really no contest because at that point it all depends on how well you control against being flanked, which is nearly impossible -- once you have a hostile opponent outside your guard and potentially even outside your peripheral vision, it no longer matters how skilled you are or how much armour you are wearing, because that person who got outside your guard now has time to place their strike where it counts, and you're not really going to be able to take an effective maneuver to prevent it. In situations where you have trees or other structure to work around, you can better control against that flanking, but that's where not auto-resolving the battle comes into play. :wink:

In battles which aren't auto-resolved I generally feel pretty good about the challenge against multiple opponents, and feel it's pretty spot on. If we do change anything as this goes, I hope we don't lose that.
 
@AxiosXiphos probably time to take a break. You're taking things to a personal level instead of debating the subject of this OP. Debate his assertion that TW doesn't care about the community but don't start posting about peoples time on the forums, it has nothing to do with the subject.

You posted the forum rules earlier, take note of them.

I've been in your position before and it is not the way.
Screw it. It's not worth it.
 
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Screw it. It's not worth it. As always I have to the right thing.
You're better for it. (y)

Ignore the off topic posts (report it if its really that bad) and engage with those that are worth the time. If you just try to fight the negativity it only breeds more until you find yourself being part of it. It has definitely helped me chill out by ignoring troll posts and leaving it to the mods. Also you'll find most people cool down once engaged in intellectual discussion, even @MostBlunted :wink:
 
Ignore the off topic posts
(Apart from the fact that I'm dismissing some ignorant dude's pointless flaming :smile: ) - it wasn't actually off-topic.
Calling someone "represents the community" just because he is "even" able to speak with dev's directly makes 0 sense. If that's how you measure "representation" then I'm also a representative because over the time I spent in this forum and in my personal life, I spoke with devs countless times. I also know things that I cannot talk about - like, legally.

So saying "this forum is disconnected with other communities and it doesn't reflect the real community" is just stupid.
This forum is the reason why we have Mount&Blade Bannerlord. It wasn't Streamers or Reddit that brought thousands of mods and kept the interest up for the M&B game. It was this forum. It was this forum and even Turkish from at the early stages of game while Armagan was more engaged with people. It was the community that kept the game alive. This forum is the MAIN community that they have to focus on and they are not doing that. Because they don't give a damn. I honestly don't give a care as well because even the dev's are not happy now how TW is handling its internal mess. But when they realize this, it will be too late already if they keep go like this.

And how's that related to the thread? Because you, or someone, can agree on OP's comments or not. You can discuss. This is why you have the forum. But you and they should be aware of the fact that there is a 99% chance that no one will ever read it from the TW staff.
 
(Apart from the fact that I'm dismissing some ignorant dude's pointless flaming :smile: ) - it wasn't actually off-topic.
Calling someone "represents the community" just because he is "even" able to speak with dev's directly makes 0 sense. If that's how you measure "representation" then I'm also a representative because over the time I spent in this forum and in my personal life, I spoke with devs countless times. I also know things that I cannot talk about - like, legally.

So saying "this forum is disconnected with other communities and it doesn't reflect the real community" is just stupid.
This forum is the reason why we have Mount&Blade Bannerlord. It wasn't Streamers or Reddit that brought thousands of mods and kept the interest up for the M&B game. It was this forum. It was this forum and even Turkish from at the early stages of game while Armagan was more engaged with people. It was the community that kept the game alive. This forum is the MAIN community that they have to focus on and they are not doing that. Because they don't give a damn. I honestly don't give a care as well because even the dev's are not happy now how TW is handling its internal mess. But when they realize this, it will be too late already if they keep go like this.

And how's that related to the thread? Because you, or someone, can agree on OP's comments or not. You can discuss. This is why you have the forum. But you and they should be aware of the fact that there is a 99% chance that no one will ever read it from the TW staff.
It was a littttttle bit of both.

I agree with your overall point, except that 99% chance no one from TW staff will ever read it. They will read it, but the most important man won't so basically same thing. We've definitely had our small victories though and clearly some major defeats.

I guess we are community representatives then :shock:. To be fair Bloc I would actually say you are one of the more respected voices on here (might just be me who thinks that?).
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:lol: gotta take the opportunities I see
 
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It was a littttttle bit of both. -
It was a little off-topic because his ignorant comment was actually off-topic. But if we assume that he is on-topic, then it was also on-topic. But I get what you mean - still, you don't have to support toxic people- especially ones that are making baseless arguments.
I agree with your overall point, except that 99% chance no one from TW staff will ever read it. They will read it, but the most important man won't so basically same thing. We've definitely had our small victories though and clearly some major defeats.
No, unfortunately, the issue is more problematic than that. Yes, there are few people from TW that reads the forums but overall dev's and decision-makers are not reading the forum. ( But they are surely not watching some random Youtuber as well :smile: ) In theory there is only one decision maker and rest of the Designers are kinda like puppet to be honest, they are getting the main idea from Armagan and detailing it. And this phase is already over - way before EA. And since Armagan dismissing any idea that might even add +1 hours of development time, the possibility of "community" adding some big feature is pretty low at the moment.
But I have a few things to say about dev's. It's more problematic not because they are not engaging ( which is fine, that's not the dev's job) or reading the forum but because they are not even playing the game or understanding the gameplay mechanics. Most of the devs in TW are completely okay to release versions that have "small" bugs in it. Bugs that can mess up your
game experience. And I'm not talking about features - I'm talking about bugs - known bugs.

Do they have to spend extra 30 mins to fix it? By their job definition, probably they don't have to. But if you know how game works, if you played it and if you know that this "small" bug can actually cause a lot of imbalances, you would spend your time to fix it. This shows commitment. Being a Game Developer is hard, and you have to like what you are doing. If you don't like it, it's probably not a good job for you. mexxico wasn't like that, and that's why community liked him. He was spending time to make it as good as possible.
Most of the things in this list and things in suggestion threads doesn't require a new ticket/feature etc. Dev who is working on that can easily tweak that and make it happen. Such things don't require Armagan's approval. Yet they are not doing it, because they don't care and don't know why it's important.

So overall, I'm sure some of these suggestions will turn into green - not because community wanted but because Armagan already had it in mind. This is how it goes since 2016. However, unless they fix this weird attitude, next game will sell 100k at best. Especially if they continue being cocky and asking an AAA price for a product that has half of the features that are advertised.
 
mexxico wasn't like that, and that's why community liked him. He was spending time to make it as good as possible.
The thing I personally like about him is that I´ve a strong feeling that he really cares and tries everything to improve the game. He is dedicated even if he could just ignore us like TWs management does. He would still get his salary.

He gave us insights on his dev thoughts, asked for our opinions and listened. He even did this in his ****ing spare time (I´m pretty sure about this) and nobody ever expected this from any dev. He opened a thread with a vote how to improve kingdom votes in the last days as just one example.

Imagine this would have been TWs attitude in general....what awesome game would Bannerlord be able to become? I´m also pretty sure that nobody in this small non famous forum community expects that HIS/HER idea HAS TO get into the game, but "we" are unified in some pretty basic stuff that just gets ignored by TW. That´s what sucks, in my opinion.

But even a "Thanks for your feedback, but we don´t think this will fit the game" reply is too much to ask for.

I´ve read so many great suggestions here in this unimportant forum from different non famous players I totally agree with. Even small stuff, nothing that would take whatever time to add or change.

I just think it doesn´t matter what anyone suggests, no matter how good how his/her idea is. TW has their straight vision and that´s it. They won´t change anything unless some maybe famous streamer/YouTuber/TikToker/whatever (btw, this dude isn´t even famous with 113k followers on YouTube, his last 2 weeks old video has 15k views, and his second last 3 week old video has 8k views) would suggest it, as I´ve learned today. And he represents the community more than the community here?

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I´ve overlooked his newest Bannerlord video which is 22hours old and has 8k views....

The day Mexxico leaves:

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(Apart from the fact that I'm dismissing some ignorant dude's pointless flaming :smile: ) - it wasn't actually off-topic.
Calling someone "represents the community" just because he is "even" able to speak with dev's directly makes 0 sense. If that's how you measure "representation" then I'm also a representative because over the time I spent in this forum and in my personal life, I spoke with devs countless times. I also know things that I cannot talk about - like, legally.

So saying "this forum is disconnected with other communities and it doesn't reflect the real community" is just stupid.
This forum is the reason why we have Mount&Blade Bannerlord. It wasn't Streamers or Reddit that brought thousands of mods and kept the interest up for the M&B game. It was this forum. It was this forum and even Turkish from at the early stages of game while Armagan was more engaged with people. It was the community that kept the game alive. This forum is the MAIN community that they have to focus on and they are not doing that. Because they don't give a damn. I honestly don't give a care as well because even the dev's are not happy now how TW is handling its internal mess. But when they realize this, it will be too late already if they keep go like this.

And how's that related to the thread? Because you, or someone, can agree on OP's comments or not. You can discuss. This is why you have the forum. But you and they should be aware of the fact that there is a 99% chance that no one will ever read it from the TW staff.
Darn tootin Bloc. This.
 
We laughed... We cried... We said our 50 bucks good bye... But where the f is TW in this thread...

And good post OP. Good effort
 
But where the f is TW in this thread...
Not here but maybe listening to important streamers/youtubers, because $$$.

I´ve heard rumors that Armagan has just hired more employees to count his money. He is in close contact with important streamers...

Just remember it for their next Sci-FI game even if those important streamers will carry the hype. 1 Streamer is worth like 100.000 posts in this forum!

TW had their one minute of fame in the "non streamer" community (all of them even deleted their accounts here!), just remember it! I´ll make sure that my 10 friends won´t buy any TW game ever again with those quality standards, as if it matters long term :wink:

Even Electronic Arts is better than TW when it comes to community stuff. I hope the future will show that small indie game companies like TW, can fall as soon as they can rise, but I´m not a youtuber/streamer...
 
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Thus far, Bannerlord has been my only TW game but I am thinking of getting Warband from Steam since I hear alot of good things from it, its mods & its only a mere $20. Though any title going forward I'll be wary of after this EA fiasco.
 
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