Alright, so you mentioned that Riot Games ban people for being abusive in chat. What you don't mention however, is that 100% gets a chat mute on their first, second (and even third, if im correct?) offense. Essentially, this allows them to continue playing the game without spreading their excessively toxic behaviour. I believe this is good because even the best players can become toxic in the worst of times. I am not trying to justify toxic behaviour, but if someone tells me; f*ck your mom or some stuff on a really stressfull or bad day then..I too have a bad day sometimes and I just can't deal with people trolling me so I can get toxic, and honestly most of the times I just decide to take a walk. Anyways, the point is that; why would you ban someone if you can preserve server population by just giving them a mute. All we need to effectively deal with this is a good system.
Someone saying go f*uck urself once is not an issue, I dont think anyone cares. Seing SLAUGHER ALL BLACK PEOPLE spammed 15 times in the chat is annoying and I have zero sympathy if they get banned for it. Oh no you dont get to troll a server with 100 people, poor you.
The chat in Warband (especially on Napoleonic Wars, but I don't think it was serious at all) was "toxic" (that the term people would describe it), but it was either ignored or joined in, but I never seen anyone getting turned off by it.
A Code of Conduct should only apply to the official servers and not the community ones. However if I had the choice, I would be against the implementation of such system: you cannot police people's thoughts and the fact can these rules cannot differentate between someone who is legimitately glorifying "harmful behavior" or is just being satiric.
Its not like they write a message saying why they quit the server/game, they just go. Personally I dont mind it most of the time, I find enjoyment in finding the trolls and killing them, but I know players who quit the game because of toxicity or harassment. I agree a code of conduct should only apply on official servers, I'll police my servers my way.
Bannerlords chat is more toxic than Warbands, due to all the little kid newcomers joining. However, there was a lot of toxicity but you kinda just wen't with it, to play the game and there wasn't any chance the devs would do much about it anyways, its like with csgo. If we can prevent toxicity, we should try to do that now, before it establishes itself.
How is this "policing thoughts"? There is a very clear difference between having thoughts and insulting people. So I can insult people as much as I wan't as long as I "mean it in a satiric way"?
Well said. A lot of people here should try that.
Also because people arent enjoying the combat or feel slighted by taleworld, theyre more likely to not fight and just troll instead.
Policing thoughts is no excuse.... Nobody in their right mind thinks hitler did nothing wrong, but I've banned dozens of them over the years. They do it only to provoke. And if they actually believe this nonsense, they can promote it in real life instead, see if that gets them any friends.
Well, sometimes having thoughts means insulting people. It's completely normal human behavior to be angry and release steam using various actions: some people do it by punching their pillows hard and some do it by using less than pleasant words.
You also kind of glossed over the part where I said this should only apply to the official servers. The things I said after that part were my personal opinion, I even put the word "if" there.
I wouldn't be surprised if people got banned for just saying "you idiot" if this "feature" got implemented.
Of course, I might be just paranoid, but who knows.
And you should be allowed to have your thoughts and opinions, even discuss them, if its done in good faith. If your thoughts are all blacks should die, I'm sure there are places you can argue your dumbass ideas, but a video game server isnt that.
If I stood up in church saying You know what, heres what the problem with communism is, and walk up to the altar. I'd be thrown out (or gently escorted out I guess.) Theres a time and place. We're on the server to play and enjoy ourselves, I dont give a **** about your politics
The "where does it all end?!" argument ugh....It ends somewhere. We use a syringe when giving out vaccines, syringes are also used to inject heroin, oh no ban all syringes!
No....It ends where its logical for it to end. Me saying that was a stupid move to my teammate isnt the same as him saying burn the jews, so stop pretending anyone would think so. If someone is banned for calling someone an idiot I'll be the first one to riot about it, but it wont happen.
NOTE: I dont mean YOU when I say you.
. Although I don't know that I would define the banter you are talking about as toxic. I can't really imagine any "good" kind of toxic behavior, by definition. But, semantics! And I guess this is why rules need to be written.
