Claymores
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It probably came from Braveheart or Highlander.
You want a big sword for stabbing and slashing? Seriously, go buy a sword of war. Any two-handed sword will work, even.
I'm all for adding more weapon variety into the game, especially for melee weapons (and some texture revamping for the old ones), but the way you're presenting your "suggestion" is dumb.
You can't even go through more than 1 horse hitbox and 1 character hitbox with a single swing anyways. That's just in M&B.
Going through 3 necks cleanly in real life is impossible, and I don't care what medieval weapon you have.
Do you see that? That's a piece of your spine. Your spine goes from right above your arse up to the base of your skull. It's comprised of your spinal cord, which is one of two parts of your CNS (central nervous system), vertebrae (bones that surround the cord), and intervertebral discs (which allow your vertebrae to move slightly and help hold them together). Bone is tough stuff. It's hard to cut through skin, muscle, and bone all in one swing, unless you have a big heavy weapon (given, a claymore is a big heavy weapon). You could probably get through one guy's neck, if he wasn't wearing a gorget (a circular piece of armor, from leather to steel, worn around the neck). Keep in mind, you're going through this:
If you're a big buff warrior dude used to swinging a big heavy sword, sure. I can see you going through that, even if you hit one of the vertebrae. However, after going through tissue and bone, you would've lost a lot of momentum in your swing. A ****-ton of your energy would be transferred to the bone on contact, and this would help break the bone, but your weapon would be moving slower coming out of the swing than going in to it.
In short: You slow down after you get through one neck.
Now, it would take a lot of strength and a really hard swing to get through one neck and have enough power to go through a second. It would take one really strong guy to get that done.
Going through three?
No.
There's no way you would go through three, especially if any of them had a gorget or bevor.
You want a big sword for stabbing and slashing? Seriously, go buy a sword of war. Any two-handed sword will work, even.
I'm all for adding more weapon variety into the game, especially for melee weapons (and some texture revamping for the old ones), but the way you're presenting your "suggestion" is dumb.
You can't even go through more than 1 horse hitbox and 1 character hitbox with a single swing anyways. That's just in M&B.
Going through 3 necks cleanly in real life is impossible, and I don't care what medieval weapon you have.
Do you see that? That's a piece of your spine. Your spine goes from right above your arse up to the base of your skull. It's comprised of your spinal cord, which is one of two parts of your CNS (central nervous system), vertebrae (bones that surround the cord), and intervertebral discs (which allow your vertebrae to move slightly and help hold them together). Bone is tough stuff. It's hard to cut through skin, muscle, and bone all in one swing, unless you have a big heavy weapon (given, a claymore is a big heavy weapon). You could probably get through one guy's neck, if he wasn't wearing a gorget (a circular piece of armor, from leather to steel, worn around the neck). Keep in mind, you're going through this:
If you're a big buff warrior dude used to swinging a big heavy sword, sure. I can see you going through that, even if you hit one of the vertebrae. However, after going through tissue and bone, you would've lost a lot of momentum in your swing. A ****-ton of your energy would be transferred to the bone on contact, and this would help break the bone, but your weapon would be moving slower coming out of the swing than going in to it.
In short: You slow down after you get through one neck.
Now, it would take a lot of strength and a really hard swing to get through one neck and have enough power to go through a second. It would take one really strong guy to get that done.
Going through three?
No.
There's no way you would go through three, especially if any of them had a gorget or bevor.
You could slash through 3 throats though...
I agree that it would be alright to add a new insane sword. Like this..
Claymore (or other name)
Two Handed Weapon
39p
50c
Reach 160 (yup)
Speed 80
Can not be used on horseback
Strength requirements 18
I don't think that's unrealistic...
I agree that it would be alright to add a new insane sword. Like this..
Claymore (or other name)
Two Handed Weapon
39p
50c
Reach 160 (yup)
Speed 80
Can not be used on horseback
Strength requirements 18
I don't think that's unrealistic...
The Wandering Knight
Sergeant
Can I play too?
But in all seriousness, it will only really differ from current in-game swords by its hilt design.
M.
Amman d Stazia
Master Knight
okay - why the **** would a claymore be length 160? Sure, they are by definition big, but 160? Thats over 2 metres, if I remember the weapon-length/real size translations. It's certainly bigger than the 2-ended spear, at 158 length.
and 50 swing? That's a bit silly, really.
and 50 swing? That's a bit silly, really.
Then I guess 2 meters was not that bad.. So...... Lets make it 150 in length (in game length, should equal to a bit less then 190 cm), that should be about the length of the longest functional sword we know of.. And fine, shave some damage of it, but remember how the physics work.. The longer the weapon, the greater speed the tip travels, the more damage it does.. This is why long weapons should benefit from length, and as far as I remember the weapons in M&B does that.
When fighting on ground with the sword of war (longest sword in the game) you achieve massive damage if you hit right (IE, let the sword swing a bit before it hits, and hit with the tip of the blade). So why not up the damage a bit. The sword of war already have over 40c.. But yes, maybe 50c was a bit off.. but at least 45c.
And yes, this does not describe a claymore, it describes a Great Sword
When fighting on ground with the sword of war (longest sword in the game) you achieve massive damage if you hit right (IE, let the sword swing a bit before it hits, and hit with the tip of the blade). So why not up the damage a bit. The sword of war already have over 40c.. But yes, maybe 50c was a bit off.. but at least 45c.
And yes, this does not describe a claymore, it describes a Great Sword
galiccia
Recruit
A claymore is not a bidenhander. The latter was a mainly thrusting weapon designed to impale enemy pikemen, then a skilled swordsman could use it's blade to kill, though most of it's damage came from the sheer shock of such a heavy blow. Claymores were much lighter and were closer to the classic two-handed longswords, in fact it's use was to chop, slash, and sometimes thrust, but it was a cutting weapon, unlike the previous.
Amman d Stazia
Master Knight
a few things:
Claymore = scots gaelic word that is comprised of clay (blade/sword) and more (large/big) - therfore claymore is just a greatsword, in the way that a zweihaender is just a two-hander. I'm sure there's a French word for it too....
'claymore' in the English language has come to mean one of 2 completely different groups of swords:
Firstly, the two-handed or hand-and-a-half swords of the mdidle ages, and the term is very loosely applied to any sword with scottish or irish connections, which required more than 1 hand to wield.
secondly, the basket-hilted broadsword of the Scottish Highland regiments in the British Army, from circa 1750 onwards. A one-handed blade roughly equivalent to the 1796 heavy cavalry sabre in size and power.
Whilst swords 2 metres long existed, (I've held one) it seems to me that they would not have been widespread. At that size, why not have a halberd instead?
Claymore = scots gaelic word that is comprised of clay (blade/sword) and more (large/big) - therfore claymore is just a greatsword, in the way that a zweihaender is just a two-hander. I'm sure there's a French word for it too....
'claymore' in the English language has come to mean one of 2 completely different groups of swords:
Firstly, the two-handed or hand-and-a-half swords of the mdidle ages, and the term is very loosely applied to any sword with scottish or irish connections, which required more than 1 hand to wield.
secondly, the basket-hilted broadsword of the Scottish Highland regiments in the British Army, from circa 1750 onwards. A one-handed blade roughly equivalent to the 1796 heavy cavalry sabre in size and power.
Whilst swords 2 metres long existed, (I've held one) it seems to me that they would not have been widespread. At that size, why not have a halberd instead?
FrisianDude
Archduke
Amman de Stazia said:
I never knew the medieval claymore was a bastard sword.
The Wandering Knight said:
Can I play too?
But in all seriousness, it will only really differ from current in-game swords by its hilt design.
M.
In the case of adding interesting weapons to Mount&Blade...
Claymores are off in time period, the large swords in mnb are closer to the period. I don't miss them, don't even find them that interesting.