Catalan Independence
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Adorno 说:
The separatist parties arranged a referendum (lacking in some ways, sure) because they were not allowed a proper referendum (see my above statement about the constitution's "indivisible Spain"). So we shouldn't have been nice to him because he arranged a referendum that was deemed illegal by the Spanish state?
Adorno 说:
As far as I'm aware, he kind of invited himself to the university, though he was invited by a Faeroese politician to the parliament.
Sure, you don't agree with his opinions, but should he've been turned down? I think it shows openness and tolerance when you let people speak and you debate with them, especially if you don't agree with their opinions.
I could not agree more with Adorno than I do at this moment. Pudgy needs to come home, face the music and follow the example set by other advocates of independence, risk imprisonment, risk death and dismemberment. No one ever gained independence without major risk.Adorno 说:
Again, if anyone is particularly interested, here is the whole debate at the university:
Puigdemont starts out by presenting the situation and some of his views, followed by Professor Christian Rostbøll that raises all the relevant philosophical and theoretical questions (similar to what Duh and I discussed earlier, about demos, ethnos, self-determination, etc. and also introduces "reasonable disagreements", compromise, and identity-politics in democratic theory) which Puigdemont then responds to; then Professor Marlene Wind asks a series of more direct questions about the case of Catalonia in relation to the EU, and lastly Puigdemont tries to answer these and a couple of follow up questions from the audience.
Puigdemont starts out by presenting the situation and some of his views, followed by Professor Christian Rostbøll that raises all the relevant philosophical and theoretical questions (similar to what Duh and I discussed earlier, about demos, ethnos, self-determination, etc. and also introduces "reasonable disagreements", compromise, and identity-politics in democratic theory) which Puigdemont then responds to; then Professor Marlene Wind asks a series of more direct questions about the case of Catalonia in relation to the EU, and lastly Puigdemont tries to answer these and a couple of follow up questions from the audience.
There are many brilliant people to invite to universities. Pudgy is not one of them unless and until he shows he has the balls to risk his freedom and his life for the cause.
he's one of the most interesting western politicians you can invite to a university. on par with varoufakis right after crisis
Absent balls, he interests me not at all.
Many of you people have thought patterns and reflexes quite similar to Turkish nationalists. Probably more than you think. Many of the underpinning ideas, intuitions and sensibilities are the same.
Actually, I was imagining myself a Catalan nationalist and, as such, I would never follow a ballsless leader like Pudgy.
Brutus is a hard homo. He accepts no perfumed eunuch.
Dystopian
tbf if you look pudgy up hes a complete fraud
And some of us have a complete lack of experience in the matter of what constitutes a good leader, especially in the area of fitness to lead a legitimate independence movement.Calradianın Bilgesi 说:
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