Caravans+

[wind_99]

Something interesting to note:

When i was neutral (not on either swadian or vags), i attacked caravans which made them all turn red (enemies) but when i joined a side the caravans on my chosen side were still red and run away from me! I found this weird cuz i was able to talk to them as if i were an ally and even offer protection.

I also keep seeing the words 'heros party' on the map which doesnt belong there.

Ive curruntly playin .711

 

[Archonsod]

I noticed this too. For some reason, a reputation drop with any caravan seems to cause it to drop for all caravans.

Not sure if it still happens after you have joined a side though.

 

[Lugh]

Word gets around that some bloody war monger is going around attacking innocent traders!

Just because you've joined up on their side, well, military units have a long history of pillaging even allied merchants.

 

[Rabid Potatoe]

I always found it wierd that caravans are a different faction to their owners. I.E, the faction called 'Vaegir Caravans'

 

[jrawlings]

Right. I think all caravans belong to the same faction, so Vaegir caravans and Swadian caravans are in the SAME faction. That would explain why your relations dropped with both of them simultaneously.

Hero_party has been mentioned before, not sure what it is though...

 

[Mechstra]

No, they're both different. If you attack Vaegir Caravans, you'll lose reputation with the Vaegir Caravans and the Vaegirs themselves - a similar situation exists for the Swadians. The problem is that if you change sides in the war, your caravan reputation is not reset along with the normal faction reputation - meaning you will find Swadian Caravans running from you even though you're a Swadian, and so on.

 

[lancer63]

But in this game it seems that caravans, regardless of nationality, are bound to the merchant's guild before anything else. In other words they pay alliegance to the almighty denar.

 

[Tarrak]

You can also rescue a caravan from an attack even if it from the enemy faction... Real nice.

Btw, have anyone ever noticed that you can escort caravans on the map? I mean approach a caravan and talk to it, then you get the option. Of course the pay is lousy (about a quarter of the caravan mission from the merchant).

 

[Roach]

It can be good business raiding lightly protected caravans. I didn't choose a side in the war, just killed bandits and raiders, and I was escorting caravans like Tarrak says, thought I'd see what happened when I attacked one.

Reputation went down with Vaegirs and Vaegir caravans. Hmm I thought.. sprinted to the nearest Vaegir town and went to see the Count. Apologised, etc, mistake, etc, won't happen again, etc, bribed him 100 denars and everything was rosy with the Vargirs again. I made 350+ from the loot..

I wonder though, does it do anything to merchants in Vaegir towns if your rep is bad with their caravans? They still seem to serve you, maybe they put their prices up? There has to be some drawback..

 

[Archonsod]

No, they're both different. If you attack Vaegir Caravans, you'll lose reputation with the Vaegir Caravans and the Vaegirs themselves - a similar situation exists for the Swadians. The problem is that if you change sides in the war, your caravan reputation is not reset along with the normal faction reputation - meaning you will find Swadian Caravans running from you even though you're a Swadian, and so on.

Must have been changed since .632 then. Last time I had a big "lets kill the merchants" trip it dropped reputation with both caravan types. Don't know if it reported the drop for both, but it turned them both red.

 

[sapi]

I've never noticed that...