Caravans (always able to caravan velvet) cheat? Unbalanced?

[peope]

Ok. I got the patent to do caravans.
And I am doing velvet trading over and over from the same city to the same city.
It is insane money.

Thing is. You can only do caravans on goods that is in goods store.
However. If you have a velvet in your inventroy. You can sell it to the goods-store.
Then request a caravan ov velvet.
Then rebuy the velvet from goods store.

That way if you have high yield wares like velvet you will always be able to do big bucks since you just rinse and repeat.
Add to that 40 cavalry and ctrl-space and you will basically never be stopped.

I got 2 mil until I chose to do a faction.

I know I can keep myself from using this kind of exploit?
But shouldn't it be fixed to a more realistic system?

Buy velvet south of Keiv. Sell near Moscow.
And if you have velvet with you you can go and see what it is bought for before you issue a caravan.
Which makes certain gain.

Suggest you cannot sell goods to the store and then issue a caravan of that good (unless that good was already there).
A lot more degradation in sell price and increase in supply-price if you do lots of the same stuff.
Also more randomish prices (as in other means of supply from npcs).

I play the game just normally and get an awful lot of money that I can buy basically everything.
Oh. And this is a tip if you are cash-starved too.

(I have 4 in trading since I wanted a high charisma for leadership)

 

[SulleDrake]

That sounds rather sick, as soon as I start doing the caravan thingy I'm gonna try this.

How long did it take to get those 2 million?

 

[peope]

It took a while.
I got at most 100k per caravan.
Down to maybe 30k.

If you take 50k as a a mean value (you can do better).
2mil would be 2000000/50000
40 trips.
(Maybe it will be less because of cost of caravan. It was so much I didnt bother with the cost of the caravan)

 

[eagleFMJ]

Is it me or did they patch velvet and spice carvans out of the game?

I bought this game day of release, at this time and many weeks after I could find velvet or spice carvans around Korsun and sell around Novgorod and make about 80K a trip.

I have been looking for hours now and have yet to find velvet or spice carvan, wtf is going on?

eagle

 

[Kneed]

Is it me or did they patch velvet and spice carvans out of the game?

I bought this game day of release, at this time and many weeks after I could find velvet or spice carvans around Korsun and sell around Novgorod and make about 80K a trip.

I have been looking for hours now and have yet to find velvet or spice carvan, wtf is going on?

eagle

This thread is 2 months old and doesn't really apply to the current version (1.42).  If you want to exploit the caravan system you need to use 1.38 as the game ecomony changed considerably in 1.41.

 

[jackx]

They haven't been removed completely, but the settlement now needs the item you wish to trade in stock in sufficient quantity for the desired caravan size (minimum of 5), so getting velvet and spice caravans is still possible, but they'll be small, and you won't get many opportunities to do them.

To compensate, selling powder to fortresses makes for a good get-rich-quick scheme that can be done just about anywhere on the map, buy powder in towns and sell to fortresses for an easy 500+ profit per item.

 

[lolwarrior]

But ussually there is only one powder item and it gets hard and annoying to find powdee and when you do there is only one item

 

[jackx]

It's not something that'll be your main effort/focus, but it's a nice way of picking up some extra cash along the way with little additional effort needed... you can always buy any powder you see in towns, because it'll always be cheap, and anytime you pass by a fortress, you can sell a couple of barrels, because you'll get at least a decent price.

Works best in the densely populated parts of the map, of course, that have several towns and fortresses in close proximity to each other.

 

[Yamchu]

Whats powder? never saw this item ingame

 

[Gungho]

Powder is barrels of gunpowder.

I always cart 6 or so barrels around with me, but there's pretty much always a huge number of it available at Azak-Kale in my game, enough for large caravans.  I think the economy is self-serving...in that if you generate demand for a specific item at a place, then it stockpiles there...and if you sell somewhere, the economy at that place improves over time.

A good thing about high end items like powder for the early game is to buy them cheap, then use them as currency to buy goods from merchants at the resale price...i.e.  If you are buying a pistol for 10k, don't use 10k of thaler, instead go buy x number of high value items at low cost (powder at 150), and trade it to the arms dealer at the high market price (say 1000) in return for the gun...that saves a truckload kitting yourself and your party out in the early game.