Bucklers! Displayed on hip properly.....Possible?

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CounterPoint391

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Yes, yes it is. So, othr fix the damn buckers on the archers :razz:....please?  :grin:

Go here for how to do it
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,127066.0.html

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I'll fix it but archers no longer wear bucklers.  It can look pretty on player characters though :smile:
 
othr 说:
I'll fix it but archers no longer wear bucklers.  It can look pretty on player characters though :smile:

Why? It is so cool item.

You could also change the 1/2h swords - some of them are still on the back not at the belt.
 
So othr made it so that bucklers correctly show already? Cool. Why were bucklers removed from archers, are they not historically accurate or something?
 
Well bucklers, as far as I know, where used in dueling and with a sword or something along those lines and probably not in 1257 ad but I could be entirely wrong here so if you have information on the subject please do share.
 
Wikipedia says that bucklers were popular from 1100 to 1600. I also found another source that said "As a fencing tradition in Europe the sword and buckler method was one of the oldest and most continuous combative systems." Although I didn't find an exact year. http://www.thearma.org/essays/SwordandBuckler.htm
 
Well as far as sense goes larger shields would be carried on the back, interfering with mobility and possibly the drawing of arrows from a quiver. A small shield such as a buckler would be lighter, easier to carry, while offering the blocking capabilites of a shield. Of course, I don't have any historical info to back it up, apart from artistic impressions of archers from about 100 years later....
 
In the Middle Ages, bucklers were common armaments among both knights and common soldiers – even more so than shields.  A buckler was less cumbersome and more agile than a larger shield and easier to carry about or wear on the hip.

-J. Clements (Sword and Buckler Fencing- Arma)

Another source claims that Mongolian Horse archers used a form of buckler.

This source http://www.myarmoury.com/review_aa_ebuckler.html claims that bucklers were worn by archers, however it wasn't until the 15th century that this apparently became popular.

A third source says:

The medieval buckler was everywhere. Though often considered a defense of the merchant class, the buckler was used as both a training tool and a battlefield weapon by the knightly classes as well. In the later Middle Ages, most regular soldiers of a liveried army would carry a buckler, whether they were infantry, archers, halbardiers or gunners.

-http://www.mercwars.com/shieldtypes.shtml

They say this was from 1200-1500.


Combining all of the sources, it looks like it might have been possible for 13th century archers to carry bucklers on their hip, but I can't find a definitive source.

 
polydamas 说:
In the Middle Ages, bucklers were common armaments among both knights and common soldiers – even more so than shields.  A buckler was less cumbersome and more agile than a larger shield and easier to carry about or wear on the hip.

-J. Clements (Sword and Buckler Fencing- Arma)

Another source claims that Mongolian Horse archers used a form of buckler.

This source http://www.myarmoury.com/review_aa_ebuckler.html claims that bucklers were worn by archers, however it wasn't until the 15th century that this apparently became popular.

A third source says:

The medieval buckler was everywhere. Though often considered a defense of the merchant class, the buckler was used as both a training tool and a battlefield weapon by the knightly classes as well. In the later Middle Ages, most regular soldiers of a liveried army would carry a buckler, whether they were infantry, archers, halbardiers or gunners.

-http://www.mercwars.com/shieldtypes.shtml

They say this was from 1200-1500.


Combining all of the sources, it looks like it might have been possible for 13th century archers to carry bucklers on their hip, but I can't find a definitive source.

Excellent job mate!
 
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