[BoP 1861] Balance of Power 1861 [Postponed until further notice.]
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Cookie Muncher 说:
I didn't say I was going to make it easy
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Feragorn 说:
fite me irl n00b
Are we able to start diplomacy yet? I know we don't have the country cards but I'm still a bit anxious for it.
Kind of hard to start diplomacy without country cards, no?
I mean, you might have some vague idea of what you would like to do with a country, but it's hard to say exactly Nord/Shatari decide in detail for each one just by looking at things from a historical perspective.
I mean, you might have some vague idea of what you would like to do with a country, but it's hard to say exactly Nord/Shatari decide in detail for each one just by looking at things from a historical perspective.
Cookie Muncher 说:Somehow I doubt Serbia would be stronger than China.
Minor Powers are not arranged in any particular way. (Notice, that they do not have numbers in front of them) Besides that, the Great and Secondary powers are arranged, like Gaham said, by general power, meaning across the board.
Cowdude 说:
Pimple_of_Pixels 说:
Pixel answered that. The list isn't completely final yet. Once it is, you can start diplomacy, but just remember that starting diplomacy without CCs may end up in confusion, with the players and the hosts.
Úlfheðinn 说:
Gaham is also a co-host, just to mention.
Oh, and since I already got one PM about it, I might as well post it here.
There a three things that will majorly affect what you can do without causing massive instability and nasty events. The first being your government type. For example, if you are a monarchy, you can change policies and/or political parties whenever you want (with some negative affects, but at least you can do it...right?). But on the other hand, if you are a democracy of some type, the only way you can change these is through elections (that you don't really have a say in (I say really because there are ways to sway votes)), but you're people will generally be happier. The second is, well, political parties. Whatever your ruling party is will put restrictions on what you can do. For example, if you have a more "conservative party" in charge, then you can only raise your taxes to a certain point, but if you have a more "liberal party", you can increase taxes higher than that of the conservative party. In addition to that, whoever controls the upper/lower house or the higher/lower courts will affect what laws are formed/passed. If you try to pass a "conservative" bill with a "liberal" controlled upper house, then it will probably get rejected. Thirdly, is laws. Laws you can create, or the upper house can create, that affect your country and may affect what leaders can and cannot do. For example, the United States Constitution will not allow the President of the US sign in his own laws, just as an example.
But all that aside, you may ask, "well it sounds like I won't get a lot done", which is absolutely not true. You have to play with politics, manipulate your way around the political stage. You are the country, remember. So you could tell me to have the courts review a law, or have the upper house form a law, or have the leader propose a law to the upper house, what have you. They may not always work, as I explained above, but you can still do it. If you don't like someone in office, have one of the political parties attempt assassination. Like I said, you control the whole country, but things may not work or go as desired based on several factors... (Like if you tell me you want farmers to riot over the lack of education, its probably not going to happen...)
I hoped that cleared things up. This may not be the final product just yet, but it is what I'm going for.
There a three things that will majorly affect what you can do without causing massive instability and nasty events. The first being your government type. For example, if you are a monarchy, you can change policies and/or political parties whenever you want (with some negative affects, but at least you can do it...right?). But on the other hand, if you are a democracy of some type, the only way you can change these is through elections (that you don't really have a say in (I say really because there are ways to sway votes)), but you're people will generally be happier. The second is, well, political parties. Whatever your ruling party is will put restrictions on what you can do. For example, if you have a more "conservative party" in charge, then you can only raise your taxes to a certain point, but if you have a more "liberal party", you can increase taxes higher than that of the conservative party. In addition to that, whoever controls the upper/lower house or the higher/lower courts will affect what laws are formed/passed. If you try to pass a "conservative" bill with a "liberal" controlled upper house, then it will probably get rejected. Thirdly, is laws. Laws you can create, or the upper house can create, that affect your country and may affect what leaders can and cannot do. For example, the United States Constitution will not allow the President of the US sign in his own laws, just as an example.
But all that aside, you may ask, "well it sounds like I won't get a lot done", which is absolutely not true. You have to play with politics, manipulate your way around the political stage. You are the country, remember. So you could tell me to have the courts review a law, or have the upper house form a law, or have the leader propose a law to the upper house, what have you. They may not always work, as I explained above, but you can still do it. If you don't like someone in office, have one of the political parties attempt assassination. Like I said, you control the whole country, but things may not work or go as desired based on several factors... (Like if you tell me you want farmers to riot over the lack of education, its probably not going to happen...)
I hoped that cleared things up. This may not be the final product just yet, but it is what I'm going for.
user1324865215
I assume you could deliberately incite a communist/fascist rebellion and then ignore it as it takes over the country. But a government-led change wouldn't work unless it was very gradual/done by election. (IE Communist party elected to office.)
Huh that's an interesting concept. You can control all elements of the country? So if I say wanted the communist party (in no way affiliated with the country's leadership) to stage a rally at a site of a struggling factory or whatever, that's something I could do?
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Cowdude 说:
I mean more like not banning the communist party, or something along those lines. I imagine it would be more indirect, and imagine setting up a situation where communism/fascism would be popular.
