Blatant Election Fraud in Russia - People Moderately Surprised

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Greatsword 说:
Danik Golovanov 说:
So, how strong is UN today? They cannot even decide to try to stop a civil war or not without months of negotiations :wink: It's up to every country to listen to them or not, and the last thing is always unpunished and does not have any consequences for that country.
e.g Libya
Dodes 说:
2)Nobody wanted another war
3)War with Russia could have caused WW3 and nuclear armageddon
2) Well, they nearly got one!
3) Nuclear? Maybe in four more years, but probably the same as Japan post German defeat.
I meant atomic : p, seeing as a land-war in Russia is nigh impossible or at lest very drawn out
also a good example of successful UN intervention was Serbia-Bosina massacre after Yugoslavia split, at the same period of time, a failure to intervene was the Rwanda massacre
 
Dodes 说:
also a good example of successful UN intervention was Serbia-Bosina massacre after Yugoslavia split
Only if the intent of the example is to demonstrate the UN's incompetence.
 
Danik Golovanov 说:
Dodes 说:
4)At this time there was no UN and the League of Nations was too weak to do anything
So, how strong is UN today? They cannot even decide to try to stop a civil war or not without months of negotiations :wink: It's up to every country to listen to them or not, and the last thing is always unpunished and does not have any consequences for that country.
Yes, that would be because they made the mistake of letting China and Russia onto the security council. On the rare occasion that Russia and China don't step in to protect genocidal regimes by vetoing any resolutions the UN is actually half way effective at intervening in civil conflicts.
 
Not necessarily. A lot of the time they do it simply as a matter of diplomacy. Their regional allies tend to be corrupt dictatorships with immense human rights abuses. Setting a practice of non-intervention for states like that isn't just a preservation of their economic investments it's also about protecting their soft power projection in the regions.

For example, there was little economic reason for China protecting Burma and North Korea isn't just useless, it's a massive drain on China's economy, but they feel the need to protect their military allies. Why I have no idea, states like Burma or North Korea wouldn't be worth piss in an actual armed conflict, as far as I can tell it's simply a matter of nationalistic pride, if the U.S. has allies in the region then China needs to have some too.

Almost like the cold war never actually ended. :razz:
 
It's not like USA's number 1. goal is to help a country when they organize an armed rebellion, and blames the current government for genocide and tyranny just to invade the country and make it to their new colony and maybe a conflict area to sell weapons to if they are lucky. If they want to get rid of tyranny and genocide in the World, they need to start with themselves.
 
Suspicious Pilgrim 说:
North Korea wouldn't be worth piss in an actual armed conflict


Yes it would. It's army is among the largest in the world, for example./
Their technology is drastically outdated and they have little to none infrastructural ability to fight anywhere that isn't their homefront, not to mention their navy and air force isn't worth mentioning, South Korea would roll over North Korea if hostilities were to commence
 
Yep, just as soon as they could supply them, train them and organize them. Why China would give those supplies to untrained Korean soldiers is beyond me though, it's not like China has a shortage of draftable population of their own, who unlike Korean soldiers aren't under the strategic command of a hierarchy that makes Elmur Fudd look like a military genius.

Also it's somewhat hard to write instruction manuals for an armed force that's largely illiterate and marvels at such technological wonders as the light bulb.

Danik Golovanov 说:
It's not like USA's number 1. goal is to help a country when they organize an armed rebellion, and blames the current government for genocide and tyranny just to invade the country and make it to their new colony and maybe a conflict area to sell weapons to if they are lucky. If they want to get rid of tyranny and genocide in the World, they need to start with themselves.
Uhuh. Which is why we shouldn't complain about China and Russia, who in addition to doing all of those things are also abusing their own citizens? Great logic there.
 
Ah yes the US's many colonies. What's that, there are really only a few small islands? Oh, right.
 
Danik Golovanov 说:
It's not like USA's number 1. goal is to help a country when they organize an armed rebellion, and blames the current government for genocide and tyranny just to invade the country and make it to their new colony and maybe a conflict area to sell weapons to if they are lucky. If they want to get rid of tyranny and genocide in the World, they need to start with themselves.
A new colony? Because the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan have been such exceptional tools for American foreign policy, is that what you are trying to say here? They really haven't.

As for genocide, I don't think you know what that word means.
 
Iraq and Afghanistan have been immensely profitable for the US too! Why we've easily made back the trillions of dollars spent on them!

What's that, the lucrative contracts all went to Russia and China? Oh, right. I guess we're just incompetent colonizers! Or they were never colonies to begin with.
 
Moss 说:
Also it's somewhat hard to write instruction manuals for an armed force that's largely illiterate and marvels at such technological wonders as the light bulb.

Hell, the southerners aren't that much more enlightened, believing fans slice up oxygen atoms and suffocate you if you leave them on overnight.
 
Conclusion: Koreans be crazy, yo.

That being said a disturbingly large amount of Brits (including their head of state) believe that if you dilute a chemical into water a hundred times over to the point that it's no longer present the water will magically take on it's 'vibrations'. :razz:
 
What do you mean by vibrations?



Also, you can't dilute something to the point it's not present, only proportionately less of it.
 
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