Bible Times Mod?

[vonBlood]

My wife and I recently watched an old BibleTimes movie put out by Fox.  The costumes, the scenery, the border guards, the weapons... it made us think of Mount&Blade, and how interesting such a Mod would be.

There would be several options for time periods:

Conquest of Caanan (Joshua's Age)
Period of Judges (where its all about the tribes and their neighbors).
Davidic Period (where its all about the struggle between Israel's new Monarchy and their rival kingdoms).
Age of Soloman (where Israel is strong, united, and the world is larger, cyprus, egypt, etc).
Judah vs Israel Period (where its all about the 10 tribes vs the 2 tribes, and their neighbors).

I am curious what you all think?  Input please?  Any ideas, problems, discussions?  I'm leaning towards Period of Judges and Davidic Period, but they are all consideration-worthy.

Once I've determined the level of success such a mod would have, and recieved input, I plan to put together a list of features.  Obviously, the period, will greatly effect where the emphasis goes, etc etc.

 

[Lynores]

I was thinking about this myself the other day. Would be a pretty mature project, especially if the dialogues were made along the lines of the Lombard Leagues mod.

 

[grailknighthero]

Asher is making one, called Deluivium or w/e

 

[Redcoat-Mic]

Oh boy a Methusulah rookie card!
Wowee over 17 conversations in AD33!

Meh, the age doesn't interest me at all.

 

[Elenmmare]

Asher is making one, called Deluivium or w/e

He was...

Until they killed him.

 

[vonBlood]

I am leaning towards Davidic Period.  If you think about it... its perfect.

Israeli Faction, surrounded by warring factions, with roving bands of mercenaries and such.  David himself got together a group of 'compansions' whom he called 'mighty men'.

Extra special attention will be taken to historical accuracy of the time. 
Historical Signifigant Characters
ex: King Saul (who carries a sword) - Prince Jonathan (who is excellent with a bow), David's Heroes (which have their specific military skills listed in the Bible).

Historical Factions
ex: Israel (tribes), Philistia, Syria

Specially scripted dialogue.

 

[grailknighthero]

This mod will be rather difficult for you, as the time period has not been touched before.  You will have to redo most of the items to fit the time period, and basically none of the current armors/clothes in native will fit.  If you can get a good modeler to help you, then this might work.  Until then, use native items as place holders.  If I were to attempt to make this mod, I would use the story of the Davidic period, but have the time period and technology level be that of the middle ages, or around the time period of one of the ancient history mods.

 

[Trooper5445]

I worked as a modeler on Asher's failed little thing, so I have a couple of models you might find useful.

 

[vonBlood]

Thanks Trooper, we will see what we need.

Yes Hero, the eventual goal is to have as near as possible a complete mod, but obviously, native will be what we work from.  The good thing about the Davidic period, is that we have extensive details on the types of weapons used, and how they were effective, and the tactics employed.  Only weapon I'm worried about is the sling-shot.

 

[Don_Vuk]

Nice idea, a swords in that time was be like this Yathagan
Yataghan was made for Arabic army when the Turkish army use it for them self that sword is a very easy and speed... So in the big conquer of Arabic and Turkish army they using this sword for 1000 years... Very popular sword I have one like this in home and it cost about 3000 Euros

 

[Lynores]

Nice idea, a swords in that time was be like this Yathagan
Yataghan was made for Arabic army when the Turkish army use it for them self that sword is a very easy and speed... So in the big conquer of Arabic and Turkish army they using this sword for 1000 years... Very popular sword I have one like this in home and it cost about 3000 Euros

Beautiful design.

 

[Alec{zacool}]

I think this would be good in the Davidic period, because, they were constantly battling the Phillistines.

 

[Swempa]

I think this would be good in the Davidic period, because, they were constantly battling the Phillistines.

The only "boring" thing is that Israel pawned them almost nine times out of teen. By the time Salomo ruled the Phillistines were conqured and Israel forced them to pay very high taxes. The Phillistines never manage to compete with them ever again after that.

 

[Raziaar]

And in charges Jesus, wielding a horrifically curved battle sword of justice, striking out at his foes with complete dismemberment in one fell swoop. It is only after he is showered in the blood and gory chunks of every last opponent does he take the time to bring his men back from the dead.

Jesus has advanced to level 6.

 

[vonBlood]

I think this would be good in the Davidic period, because, they were constantly battling the Phillistines.

The only "boring" thing is that Israel pawned them almost nine times out of teen. By the time Salomo ruled the Phillistines were conqured and Israel forced them to pay very high taxes. The Phillistines never manage to compete with them ever again after that.

Actually technically this 'Davidic' period is also known as the start of the Israeli Monarchy period... and as mentioned previously, if it begins during Saul's reign... then actually, the Philistines and the Israelites were pretty much even, even to the point of wiping out the King's army, taking him prisoner, and killing his sons.

 

[vonBlood]

I've decided on Early Davidic Period.  The map is more balanced, everyone is at a stalemate, and there are roving bands of warriors signing up with the armies (which in this game will be you... which I might add, basically means, you become a type of 'David').

What I need at this point, I think (open to feedback), and will gladly accept contributions is:

Israeli Weaponry / Armor / Clothing (images, textures, etc.)
Philistine Weaponry / Armor / Clothing (images, textures, etc.)
Moabite Weaponry / Armor / Clothing (images, textures, etc.)
Ammon Weaponry / Armor / Clothing (images, textures, etc.)
Edomite Weaponry / Armor / Clothing (images, textures, etc.)
Canaanite Weaponry / Armor / Clothing (images, textures, etc.)

Please, keep in mind, that a lot of early (made in the middle ages) paintings and pictures of these weapons and armor are VERY inaccurate, and depict ancient old testament weapons as looking identicle to middle ages weapons, armor, etc (they didn't have the internet to do research).  Going to becareful to avoid this same pitfall.

 

[Merlkir]

I'd suggest watching Bible Battles from HCH (I think). You can easily find it on torrents for instance.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446935/

Pressfield has all kinds of interesting theories on equipment and tactics of those times..

 

[Swempa]

Actually technically this 'Davidic' period is also known as the start of the Israeli Monarchy period... and as mentioned previously, if it begins during Saul's reign... then actually, the Philistines and the Israelites were pretty much even, even to the point of wiping out the King's army, taking him prisoner, and killing his sons.

Yes, I know. That is actually the only battle the Philistines won during the Davidiv peroid. Before this period the Philistines were superior. But when Saul became king, David pretty soon got to be his general and he did not loose a single battle against them. Saul lost one great battle were he and his sons died, but after that when David got the throne, Israel made several campaigns against them. After that, they never got on their feet again.

 

[Lynores]

vonBlood:

Are you a modeller/texturer or scripter? You asked for no models, just references and textures in the list above, hence the curiosity.

 

[Spanish_Broomaker]

And in charges Jesus, wielding a horrifically curved battle sword of justice, striking out at his foes with complete dismemberment in one fell swoop. It is only after he is showered in the blood and gory chunks of every last opponent does he take the time to bring his men back from the dead.

Jesus has advanced to level 6.

Jesus brings down enemies with his Word (see Revelation), I guess you don't read the Bible! 

Now back to the topic:
A "Bible mod" would be too big, maybe specify a certain period, would it be a mod during Saul's reign?  David's reign?  Solomon's reign?  Babylon taking over the middle east?  Assyria taking over the Northern Kingdom of Israel?  Israel's return from Exhile?  The Roman Period?  Try to specify, myself I would enjoy a mod in any of the periods I mencioned!