Beta Patch Notes e1.7.2

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Khan's Guard should not be beating Banner Knights, Cataphracts, and Druzhina in melee.
But everything can beat them in melee until they're dismounted, because TW hasn't figured out how to make mounted unit hit with normal pol arms and side arms. They need to fix dysfunctional troops, not nerf function one and make every unit a worthless pile of garbage. I wish Cataphracts could swing thier pole arm, would make the 10X better.
 
Was the problem hitting the "Done" in the menu only? I haven't tested it but does this cover hitting the button to take out all prisoners and then hitting done? That was how I was able to get this bug to occur. None of the prisoners would be taken out in a city I didn't own and then I would get relationship improvement, Charm XP and Influence.

Only worked if the city already had prisoners
 
But everything can beat them in melee until they're dismounted, because TW hasn't figured out how to make mounted unit hit with normal pol arms and side arms. They need to fix dysfunctional troops, not nerf function one and make every unit a worthless pile of garbage. I wish Cataphracts could swing thier pole arm, would make the 10X better.
Khan's Guard aren't just "functional", they're incredibly broken and able to take down standing infantry with one glaive swing as if they had couched Lance charged them from a distance.

So to make banner knights, druzhina, cataphracts etc. better melee fighters than them (which you would need to do since Khan's Guard are ALSO skilled archers) you would have to make every single lance hit from standing still a one hit kill, which is stupid and makes a couched lance charge pointless.

That's why mounted units definitely need to be able to hit I agree, but Khan's Guard's Glaive also needs to be nerfed or replaced with a weaker melee weapon or both.

Buff the dysfunctional troops AND nerf the hugely overtuned troops, this is how we get balance and variety and fun.
 
Khan's Guard aren't just "functional", they're incredibly broken and able to take down standing infantry with one glaive swing as if they had couched Lance charged them from a distance.

So to make banner knights, druzhina, cataphracts etc. better melee fighters than them (which you would need to do since Khan's Guard are ALSO skilled archers) you would have to make every single lance hit from standing still a one hit kill, which is stupid and makes a couched lance charge pointless.

That's why mounted units definitely need to be able to hit I agree, but Khan's Guard's Glaive also needs to be nerfed or replaced with a weaker melee weapon or both.

Buff the dysfunctional troops AND nerf the hugely overtuned troops, this is how we get balance and variety and fun.
They did it in warband, every type of cavalry can ride up and punk a melee no problem. Yes some are even better but all could easily kill infantry just like a bannerlord KG. Why worry about infantry in bannerlord when all they can do is waddle around and get shot to death anyways? If your infantry is ever doing anything useful YOU'VE ALREADY WON! The mountain of balance and RE-MADE COMBAT AI needed is so high that these little tinkers are silly.
 
They did it in warband, every type of cavalry can ride up and punk a melee no problem. Yes some are even better but all could easily kill infantry just like a bannerlord KG.
If you can onehit all sorts of infantry without a big long charge what's the point of charges or couched lances though?
That's why I think that no lance or glaive should onehit infantry from a stationary horse. Or if glaives are capable of that they shouldn't be usable two handed on horseback (in real life you would catapult yourself off the horse if you tried that).
Why worry about infantry in bannerlord when all they can do is waddle around and get shot to death anyways? If your infantry is ever doing anything useful YOU'VE ALREADY WON! The mountain of balance and RE-MADE COMBAT AI needed is so high that these little tinkers are silly.
I don't think it's a tinker considering it beats every other unit in the game really easily except Fians, but yes I agree a mountain of other changes are needed too. Either way it's a good start.
 
If you can onehit all sorts of infantry without a big long charge what's the point of charges or couched lances though?
That's why I think that no lance or glaive should onehit infantry from a stationary horse. Or if glaives are capable of that they shouldn't be usable two handed on horseback (in real life you would catapult yourself off the horse if you tried that).
Totally agree.
Instead of restricting the use of glaives, maybe adding a handling penalty when stationary on horseback would be a better option.
 
I play with mods but I don´t think that it´s related to one of my mods. Did the quest two times and received 10.000 denars in both cases. Other quest rewards seem normal to me (much lower, ~1000).

Mods:
RBM (both modules)
Party Screen Enhancements
Raise your Banner (BANNERS WHEN!!!!)
+ all dependencies
 
I play with mods but I don´t think that it´s related to one of my mods. Did the quest two times and received 10.000 denars in both cases. Other quest rewards seem normal to me (much lower, ~1000).

Mods:
RBM (both modules)
Party Screen Enhancements
Raise your Banner (BANNERS WHEN!!!!)
+ all dependencies
That's not normal, but it could be related to mods if RBM changes the values of the horses in some way (Or makes the AI buy/use more horses?), it could be even some stats on the horse changed effecting the value and effecting the reward, but I don't know for sure how the reward is calculated. Delivering more expensive types of horses does yield a bigger reward though. New bug or MOD-DONE-IT, who knows?
 
That's not normal, but it could be related to mods if RBM changes the values of the horses in some way (Or makes the AI buy/use more horses?), it could be even some stats on the horse changed effecting the value and effecting the reward, but I don't know for sure how the reward is calculated. Delivering more expensive types of horses does yield a bigger reward though. New bug or MOD-DONE-IT, who knows?
Makes sense with the horses. Maybe someone playing vanilla can confirm it?
 
I play with mods but I don´t think that it´s related to one of my mods. Did the quest two times and received 10.000 denars in both cases. Other quest rewards seem normal to me (much lower, ~1000).

Mods:
RBM (both modules)
Party Screen Enhancements
Raise your Banner (BANNERS WHEN!!!!)
+ all dependencies

At one time (I haven't played in months), they would offer 10k if it was high end horses, but you were actually paid less than that. It was still a pretty high amount. I remember seeing this as my first quest and it seemed way out of balance make that kind of money for such a trivial task.
 
At one time (I haven't played in months), they would offer 10k if it was high end horses, but you were actually paid less than that. It was still a pretty high amount. I remember seeing this as my first quest and it seemed way out of balance make that kind of money for such a trivial task.
It was horses, imperial chargers.
 
@Callum @Duh_TaleWorlds
In (near) future, is there any possibility that item/horse modifiers in Warband be added in Bannerlord as well? Such as Champion/Spirited/Heavy for horses, Masterwork/Tempered/Strong for weapons, Lordly/Reinforced for armors ect. If I remember right, some of them exist (mainly bad ones) but not all of them added. Details:
Also are there any particular reason for change of horse types? I mean in this blog ( https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/60 ) horse types seems similar to Warband (and in old gameplay videos as well such as Steppe Charger) but later those are removed. Is it possible for these to return as well?
 
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I dont mean to be a pain but I only have 24 hours to live.
Is there any chance that you may release the new patch today
so that I can enjoy my last froggy day??
 
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Is anyone else experiencing a consistent crash on loading of the game or saves? It keeps crashing on during or before the game loads, I usually get a dx11 error. Sometimes if my drivers need updates it crashes but this is some completely different error.
 
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