I was posting this obviously after lot more examples. This one case was just one example.As a single case? That's just getting ****ed by dice. You need a lot more trials to start to see if the numbers are coming up weighted in some way. Getting ****ed by dice just happens sometimes, even when nothing is imbalanced. ?
Of course you can guide 2, 3, 4 or any other number. More slowly than guiding one. That's the herding penalty. Horses pulling chariots (which aren't in the game) aren't roped together behind a rider.
Yeah but the herding penalty can slow one down to slower than a guy walking. That's overdone.
I dont think guiding 2 horses vs. 1 would decrease your speed at all, have you worked with horses regularly?
Any non-player hero that gets "kiled" in battle has a 10% chance to die iirc. It's not weighed for or against any particular clan.
That sounds like a lot of horses (I've been to 300 horses/20 cav/75 infantry temporarily while picking up cheap desert horses plus mules to re-sell, and still moved above 4 speed). I suppose at what point does each troop not be able to have a few horses roped behind him, without causing havoc to the column - and the party ends up more like a group of cowboys herding hundreds of mustangs?
No. But what we're talking about here is not one person guiding two horses while riding another, but tens or hundreds of troops guiding some multiple of that of horses, laden with trade goods and equipment, while maintaining column cohesion and organisation while also (no doubt) trying to ride down groups of bandits or opposing armies. And none of us has done that.
Do cow-boys herding mustangs end up going slower than people on foot ?
Do cowboys herding mustangs siege castles and fight battles against hundreds of enemies without their mustangs running away? Do armies march 24 hours a day without rest?
Thanks for the clarification.
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Nvm that, @MArdA TaleWorlds said in another thread that it's intentional and that they've changed the herd penalty from 0.02 to 0.2.....
Are there plans to implement this for AI simulations? So it’s not just the players faction and their enemy who die in battle?
Then 0,05 seems more appropriate to me....
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I'm with you on this. Mongol warriors guided several horses on the march and they travelled 80 miles a day or more. One article I read said an single Mongol Warrior might've brought 20 horses. Their formations were the fastest moving of any army up that time and faster than most that came in the years after their decline. Now I get it. That's the high water mark for mobility. I don't think all the factions should be able to replicate the Mongols. It would be like playing a basketball video game and saying all the players should be able to play like Jordan. But the herd penalty is crazy. After I played 1.5.4 for about an hour, I turned it off and reloaded 1.5.3. I can't do it. I've been very patient with them getting this game finalized and where it needs to be and they took a HUGE step backwards with 1.5.4. Rather... a GINORMOUS step backwards. 1.5.4 is unplayable.
That's all well and good. But look at how they've designed the game. Two things you have to gain in this game: Renown and money. They've tied them to certain activities. Now, I have to choose to be a hunter chasing around looters in order to get renown... OR... I can load myself up with trade goods and sell them for money and only get renown from tournaments. It's either or, not both. So, if they want mobility to reflect real life, I'm cool with that. But then balance that out some other way. If I want to play as a trader, give me some more options where I can earn renown (make tournaments available in every city and reset more quickly after they are done, for example). Or, if I want to chase looters around the map, add some more options to earn denars (up the loot from defeating looters). Something. Balance it out. And no Cowboys don't siege castles. Cowboys lose football games and then their owner gets on camera to explain why he's a great general manager despite accomplishing nothing since the 90s.
I think a stash spot is a good answer for this. I'm cool with the restriction if I can stash my goods somewhere. I can pick them up when I feel like going on the caravan trail and I can stash them when I feel like chasing around looters. Although, I still prefer they just undo the herd penalty. The problem, even with the stash, is loss of flexibility. Let's say I go into a village. I need one more dose of relation with one of the village members to get a higher tier troop. That village member has an available quest which would give me that last bit of relationship I need to unlock that troop. I talk to him and the quest is "need help with bandits". Well, now I'm in caravan mode loaded down with crap and wouldn't be able to catch any bandits. Opportunity lost. By the time I stash my stuff and go back to that village, the quest timed out. Boo. Just undo this herd penalty. It kills me because before they did this there were already people whining about how do I go faster. So they had to know a lot of people were already feeling the mobility was too restrictive. And they freaking doubled down on the penalty still. I'm having a problem with the decision making process at TW right now. I reviewed this game at 1.4.1 and gave it a good review. All the way up to 1.5.3 I still would've given a good review. 1.5.4 is the first update where I've seriously considered updating that old review I did and saying nope... don't buy it. I am absolutely dumbfounded by this decision. You nerfed my party. I can barely move. OK. Do that to the caravans and the looters who are on foot. Apparently all the looters in Calradia are world class sprinters.
So how come I'm doing both? Without a herd penalty? And faster than ever, given that scouting perks are implemented and pretty useful?
