Resolved Beta 1.4.1.New game. Never modded. Lords hit extremely fast in the arena

[Keimpe]

I came across this post. I had the same bug in the arena but with another character.

"Ok I've encountered a really weird bug :/ The lord Tharos in the last stage of a tournament, was attacking with the speed of light. He still had a normal cooldown on his attacks, so I could also attack, but his attacks literally had the speed of the Flash."

The lord i came across had a skill of 270.

Sorry no save

 

[stringman7113]

Some of the lords have skills that high - it's pretty rare though. If you look through the list of lords/ladies you'll see this. Have you tried shield bashing?

 

[Keimpe]

Some of the lords have skills that high - it's pretty rare though. If you look through the list of lords/ladies you'll see this. Have you tried shield bashing?

Ah so it's not a bug then? I was just starting a new game, and i blinked and was pushing up daisies. I will try shieldbashing.
The thing is, in all the 140 hours i played since the beginning this never happened before.

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[stringman7113]

I guess it depends on whether how fast he was. Do you have a video of it? I've got 260 hours myself and I haven't seen anything crazy fast but I've definitely died in the arena.

 

[Keimpe]

I died in the area many times over. Never have i seen this fast response. It was really supernatural.
Unfortunately i have no vid. But will try to reproduce.

 

[Faras]

Lords attack way too fast because devs made an mistake when converting percentage to decimal: 0.2% was converted to 0.02 (which is 2%) and 0.5% to 0.05 (5%). So in reality the perks "Way Of The Sword" and "Way Of The Great Axe" add 2% speed and 5% damage for every skill point past 200:

 

[elysebluemoon]

Forwarding this issue to the QA team for further investigation. Thanks for reporting.

 

[peppermor]

Lords attack way too fast because devs made an mistake when converting percentage to decimal: 0.2% was converted to 0.02 (which is 2%) and 0.5% to 0.05 (5%). So in reality the perks "Way Of The Sword" and "Way Of The Great Axe" add 2% speed and 5% damage for every skill point past 200:

I think that you are not rigth. Take a look at EffectIncrementType its Add in both so instead of 0.2% to speed you got 0.02 flat added to speed modifier which base is 0.93 so its ~2% bonus per skill level Genorous! Thats why we have Agent Smith lords with 300 1H

 

[peppermor]

In discussion under one mod we talked:
"They need to add a SecondaryEffectIncrementType to PerkObject. But make a new BonusObject(Role, IncrementType, Value) and a list to store these objects will be much better for developing base game and mods.
sigh." ~OphiasXu

This will help with other broken not working perks like eg To Be Blunt which have mixed bonuses: 5% to dmg and flat 0.5 to security. Always one will be wrong.

 

[KingEroc1st]

i think it has to do with the implementation of the new perks their attacks are so fast they hit through shields sometimes. best to strafe around them and smack them in the back of the head

 

[Keimpe]

i think it has to do with the implementation of the new perks their attacks are so fast they hit through shields sometimes. best to strafe around them and smack them in the back of the head

That's ok. I'd rather have TW fix the issue

 

[KyDeezy]

i think it has to do with the implementation of the new perks their attacks are so fast they hit through shields sometimes. best to strafe around them and smack them in the back of the head

You're going to need 300 athletics. They also pivot a lot faster.

 

[KyDeezy]

Forwarding this issue to the QA team for further investigation. Thanks for reporting.

Thank you. I have video of this if devs need.

 

[KingEroc1st]

That's ok. I'd rather have TW fix the issue

sure, but are u gonna take those losses for a couple of weeks? i just reloaded 15 times and eventually beat Tharos, at the time my character is too lower level and have no gear so I lucked out in the tournament format and had a team battle, managed to kill his teammate first and gank him from behind. Since Tharos (who I legit thought was THANOS at first) I've encountered a few lords with high weapon skills that swing fast as lightning but managed to beat them later. my trick is to have high level of composure and block their attack and slash them from the left to right, block and hit, rinse and repeat. your shield can hold about 10-15 attacks and if you are strafing a bit you will avoid their stabs and vertical slashes. although they do extra damage and have super armor you can manage to slash their face with the sweet spot for about 15 damage. also if you manage to land a few unreturned hits on them their rate of attack slows down. allowing you more time to maneuver.

Frankly i just saw this as a challenge since the previous arena tournaments are a joke

 

[KingEroc1st]

You're going to need 300 athletics. They also pivot a lot faster.

they do seem to have high 200+ athletic skills and instant turnarounds yes. but they do wear super heavy armor that slows them down. i found that after about 75 athletics and wearing armor less weight than 10 allowed me to dance around them no problem. before that i was still getting clipped once in a while as they turn 180 instantly and chop me. Also i found the trick to beating them is actually block their attack and left to right slash across the face. normally their armor blocks 50 damage and i do 1-3, but if you are able to slash them in the face with the sweet spot you can do 10-15 damage.

 

[Keimpe]

sure, but are u gonna take those losses for a couple of weeks? i just reloaded 15 times and eventually beat Tharos, at the time my character is too lower level and have no gear so I lucked out in the tournament format and had a team battle, managed to kill his teammate first and gank him from behind. Since Tharos (who I legit thought was THANOS at first) I've encountered a few lords with high weapon skills that swing fast as lightning but managed to beat them later. my trick is to have high level of composure and block their attack and slash them from the left to right, block and hit, rinse and repeat. your shield can hold about 10-15 attacks and if you are strafing a bit you will avoid their stabs and vertical slashes. although they do extra damage and have super armor you can manage to slash their face with the sweet spot for about 15 damage. also if you manage to land a few unreturned hits on them their rate of attack slows down. allowing you more time to maneuver.

Frankly i just saw this as a challenge since the previous arena tournaments are a joke

The 'losses' are not that frequent. They happen only on minor occasions,
i am sure the solution will present itself in the form of an update.
The rest of your speech is not relevant, as it is a bug and will be fixed
Congrats on your workaround, but I don't need to work around a bug.
It is the bug that needs adressing.The temporary solution will be obsolete.

 

[Ehanoc]

Lords attack way too fast because devs made an mistake when converting percentage to decimal: 0.2% was converted to 0.02 (which is 2%) and 0.5% to 0.05 (5%). So in reality the perks "Way Of The Sword" and "Way Of The Great Axe" add 2% speed and 5% damage for every skill point past 200:

Well spotted. I guess you should do their code review and ask for the unit tests.

 

[elysebluemoon]

I have been informed that this issue has been fixed. Thanks for reporting!

 

[Keimpe]

I have been informed that this issue has been fixed. Thanks for reporting!

Anytime! And great news!