Best weapons: where and how?

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Draksen

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'lo there!
I was wondering: where are the high end weapons in the game? Do they spawn randomly at any weapon shop, should I visit a specific shop/city to find them, or are they looted items only?

Ah and well, can you give me the stats of the best bow you know (damage and required STR and PD) and the best crossbow you know (damage and required STR), thanks Smile

Regards,
Draksen
 
The High end weapons (Like the Balanced Sword of War etc.) just appear rather infrequently at any of the weapon merchants, or loot.

As to your other question, I believe the best bow is the Khergit (for a good balance between speed and damage and accuracy)... just look up the stats ingame. I don't know about crossbows.
 
It depends - there is the War Bow.

Read this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/929393/43196
 
I think the best x-bow it the sniper. Does 50+ damage, but is very slow to load.
 
Well, it really depends right? Best can be most damage, or fastest, or probably most flexible right?

Most Flexible Bow: Hunting Bow and or Short Bow (Not at all strong, but very fast and very accurate if you have the skills)

Fastest Bow: Hunting Bow (Very Fast and Accurate (With a speed of 100, it's the fastest bow)

Strongest Bow: War Bow (Inaccurate unless you have a very high Power Draw score, Insanely Powerful, Moderate Speed)

Most Flexible Crossbow: Light Crossbow (Fair Damage, Insanely accurate, average reload speed and you can use it on a horse)

Fastest Crossbow: Hunting or Light AFAIK

Strongest Crossbow: Sniper Crossbow (Can't be used on horseback, slow reload)

Sorry, kind of in a hurry.
 
I chose my two weapons for flexibility.

The light crossbow is the heaviest you can reload from horseback, and like all crossbows requires no skill points and almost no proficiency to be usable.

The bastard sword can pierce and slash, and if you want to really get medieval you can disarm your shield and use the sword 2-handed.

I chose my shield for its resilience.

The steel shield can take a tremendous amount of punishment, so if you're unhorsed in a large mob you can survive until your army comes to your rescue (or you've withdrawn to your army's position).  Use backstep and strafe to keep all opponents in front of you.
 
The sniper crossbow is great if you are on foot. It is the most powerful one. If on a horse use light crossbow.
The Strong bow is the best bow due to its distance and speed of reloading.
The balanced bastard sword is the best one handed weapon.
The balanced sword of war is the best for two handers.
The reinforced black armour is the best armour.
The Thick great helmet is what i find the best for helmets.
The reinforced black greaves are the best for foot armour.
The reinforced steel gloves are the best hand armour.
 
Inasrian 说:
The balanced bastard sword is the best one handed weapon.

Not really when you account for the damage reduction when used as a one-hander.
 
Lamjose 说:
Inasrian 说:
The balanced bastard sword is the best one handed weapon.

Not really when you account for the damage reduction when used as a one-hander.
Tuckles 说:
And speed IIRC.

It's the best in terms of reach, and flexible enough that if there are no threats to warrant the use of a shield it can instantly become a 2-hander. That flexibility makes it the best IMO. I ALMOST feel no need to carry a dedicated 2-hander if I have a balanced bastard sword, although I usually do.
 
I'd much rather have a sword or a nomad sabre than a Bastard Sword. Bastard Swords are too long IMO. A Nomad Sabre or Sword (with the current AI) will deal near-maximum damage because of its range.

Not to mention the sabre is faster and deals some good damage. (No stab though)
 
No no no, Bastard sword is absolutely amazing in almost all situations, because when you're in a one on one, you can simply switch out shield and smack the enemy with insane speed (highest of all 2handers IIRC) and two hander damage, and when it's one handed, as long as you have decent agility and weapon proficiency then it's not ridiculously slow, and it deals excellent damage if timed correctly (despite damage reductions) plus if your shield gets smashed you get that extra boost of speed and damage that could help you out of the situation, which a sabre just can't do!
 
But the optimum range of swords and sabres are better! You can be in very close proximity (as the AI usually does) and still be able to whack nicely! Also, swords and sabres (especially the falchion) can get you out of mobs.
 
for me, bastard sword is the best, close-ranged battle, or using it on horse, both of them are excellent. So i bought for Marnid and Borcha, I have a team of 15 knights, 5 dark knights, the others are swadians. Once I have beaten 36 dark knights with bastard sword. so 
I think it's the best. 
  But I wonder what is the best kind of shield? Could you guys tell me? 
 
I've just discovered the joys of lancing, myself, so I'm riding across the map intentionally running into people for points.  I took it up because I needed a counter to the dreaded spear ... besides getting off the horse.  My polearm skill is so low I get 2-3 points every time I hammer some loser.  I'm pretty sure it's riding skill that matters more.
The lance is quite possibly the cheapest of the most-effective weapons, unless you count the cost of the horse.  I can finally see the usefulness of the Charger ... it was really tough hitting footmen from so high up with swords and the like, but with a lance you'd be in good shape.

Bastard sword ... a fine weapon, I truly love it.  Dekes can't keep up with it 2-handed on the ground, and you can use it as a spear on foot against horsemen.
The morningstar is a serious can-opener, though.  Its long spikes do "pierce" damage: that halves the effectiveness of armor.  The bastard sword has a pierce attack as well, but you have to fiddle the mouse around to select it and it's really tough to aim.  The stab is invaluable against mounted opponents and the major reason to choose a sword over a sabre, but it's a specialty attack, not something you can use all the time.  The 'star pierces anything it hits, every time.
I would call the 'star a rider's weapon because it's so darn slow.  On the ground you get creamed.  The 2-H configuration bastard sword, on the other hand, is lightning fast.  On the ground I'd rather have a bastard sword than a 'star.
I got a watered-steel sabre and thought I'd be invincible, but it can't crack armor.  A bastard sword is just heavy enough to have some stopping power after a Deke's black armor absorbs the blow.  Also, although for its speed the sabre has excellent reach, it doesn't come near that of the bastard sword, which is why with practice you can slice a Steppe Bandit off his horse without getting hit.
The sabre is also quite possibly the best bandit-killing weapon in the game, mounted or on foot.  Speed and reach are a lethal combination against unarmored opponents.  Just because I don't like sabers doesn't mean they're not great weapons.

In the early game the spiked mace is a poor man's can opener.  It does armor-defeating bash damage and has adequate reach and speed for ground or horseback, and bandits and raiders routinely carry them.  For the "nobleman capture" mission I use a balanced spiked mace rather than a slower, more powerful maul or warhammer.

Axes are slow and do slash damage, so I don't use them.  I've never fought an opponent long enough for his shield to break, and the best way to neutralize a shield is a horse nudge, so I don't see much use for axes.  It sucks getting your shield broken by them, however.  That's why I sacrifice the coverage of a fat shield like a heater in favor of the virtually indestructible steel shield.

I hope these comments have been useful to you.  Your best bet is to try different things and figure out what suits your style.  A little side-note here: the polearms are almost always footmen's weapons.  The glaive might look good on paper, but you can't slash with it from horseback, so on a horse it's basically a fancy spear.
 
The best weapons is the one you prefer.

If you prefer a fast bow, use fast.

If you prefer a damaging bow, use a war bow

And so on...

It's pretty clearly that the heater shield is the best.
It nearly never cracks, and has balanced speed and size.
The heraldic shield has a bit lowered health, so it won't make much difference to pay what little difference they have.
It's about 50 to 200 denars difference, so you won't mind.

The steel shield is overkill with resistance and health, too slow, and too small.

About the crossbows, there's alot of people who recommend crossbows.
Take what suits you. Speed, damage, accuracy and so on.

If i personally should choose, I'd go for heavy crossbow.
Since it can't be used on horse, don't use crossbows at all on horse.
They take too long time to reload, and you won't often hit (on horse).

About the bastard sword, well, it's a mix of one and two handers.
I'd say, no melee weapons is properly BEST, since everyone has his or her own talent or preference.

The bastard sword and improve both One-handed and Two-handed, making it an great weapons for training.

Sabre and scimitars are specialized for speed anyway.

PS: About the specific towns to find items, they randomly comes in shops and armouries.
Theres no specific place to get exactly the item you're looking for, except for trading goods and the chests.
 
I go with a shield and a Bastard sword, works best for me. With a PD of 10 I like to play with the War Bow.
 
Myden, I'd add something to what you said about Xbows. Using them on horseback is the same principle as using them on foot, rather than bows. Basically, someone who uses a crossbow rather than a bow mostly does so because of accuracy... so if you want to be a horse archer who uses the speed up slow down tactic (stop to fire, then run away) a crossbow had the same advantage of pinpoint accuracy as it does on foot over a bow. You may then say "but there's the reload times to consider" well yeah... but then you have that problem on foot too.

Basically, if you want to be a cav Xbower, you do it because you like the accuracy and the ability to run quickly combined.

That said, it is very hard to master the art of crossbows on horseback, and I myslef only ever tried it with one charcter... but it was fun!
 
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