Best infatry army setup

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Hunaxor

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After playing as Sarranids and then Swadians, I am bored. So I will try to start only foot campaign. I am pretty sure that for melee the Nords are the best. Against cavalry, it is tough luck, but i ahve found that Nord throwing slaughter horses, and Huscarls are then able to chop those knights. So no problem here.

But I dont really know what kind of archers? Rhodoks are cool but I read somewhere that Vaegir ones are better. Also it would be easier to recruit them. Also I dont know much about Sarranid ones.

Anyone would be so kind and write some info about different archers?
Thx
 
Hunaxor 说:
After playing as Sarranids and then Swadians, I am bored. So I will try to start only foot campaign. I am pretty sure that for melee the Nords are the best. Against cavalry, it is tough luck, but i ahve found that Nord throwing slaughter horses, and Huscarls are then able to chop those knights. So no problem here.

But I dont really know what kind of archers? Rhodoks are cool but I read somewhere that Vaegir ones are better. Also it would be easier to recruit them. Also I dont know much about Sarranid ones.

Anyone would be so kind and write some info about different archers?
Thx

An army of nord husculars is the best army in the game for seiging and defending. They destroy everything. Against cavalry you need to clump them together so the cavalry gets stuck and doesn't ride though. You also can put tghem on a hill for total domination of cavalry.

Best archers are the rhodok sharpshooters. They will destroy armys if in bulk because they are so acruate and probably take at least half health on each shot to most units some 1 hit killing and they get quite a few headshots it seems. They also make sieges a nightmare.
 
Nords, nords and some more nords. Nords are the best infantry there is, as even the lower tiers have decent armour and throwing weapons. A line of nords can deal a ****load of damage to AI infantry as the enemy will receive an absolutely massive barrage of throwing axes and javelins. I suppose Nord veteran archers do their job, but they're nowhere near as good as Vaegir archers. For ranged units I'd have either Vaegir archers or Rhodok Crossbowmen. The latter deal more damage, but won't be able to shoot as rapidly, so I suppose it's a matter of personal taste when choosing between those two. You can get Rhodok xbowmen rather easily though, seeing how the Rhodok recruits can be upgraded to them.
 
If you mix some Rhodoks in with your Nords that will completely screw over mounted troops. The Rhodok spears stop them dead in their tracks and the Nords rush in to hack them apart. The Rhodok Sergeants hit damn hard too. They're one of the few troops who pose a threat to my thick armor. Set the Spearmen as their own troop type so you can use them to break mounted charges.

For archers I'm with dhowlett in supporting the Rhodok Sharpshooters. They aren't the fastest, but they're well armored, accurate, and pack a punch both range and melee. Plus they have the board shields.

You can have them stand infront of your Nords with an order not to fire, creating a shield wall thanks to those board shields. Once the enemy is close tell them to fire. That first barrage of bolts will decimate whatever is at the front of the charge. Put the spearmen behind those archers to break the charge of anything still mounted, then have your Nords charge in while pulling back your sharpshooters so they can reload and get to a better vantage point.

The Vaegir archers don't come as armored, and I believe some lack shields. I wouldn't suggest the Sarranid archers. They have good aim but die very easily and quickly. Glass cannons  :razz:
 
I personally have a group only for Huscarls, another for the rhodok crossbowmen and another group for rhodoks ( infantry ). When the enemy advance in lines place your army like this: Crossbowmen at a higher place than the huscarls, the huscarls ( or other kind of elite infantry ) will be your mid line while the rhodoks with board shields will be taking missiles and even holding against cavalry, when the enemy get closer, something like 50 paces, order your elite infantry to charge and then order your rhodok infantry to fall back close to your crossbowmen to protect them, using this with nord huscarls gave me a victory from 120 swadians ( 30 cavalrymen ) with something like 10 or 15 casualties. My army composition was : 30 or 25 Huscarls, 10 seagents and 15 sharpshooters


PS: Sorry for misspelling or grammatical mistakes.
 
dhowlett 说:
Hunaxor 说:
After playing as Sarranids and then Swadians, I am bored. So I will try to start only foot campaign. I am pretty sure that for melee the Nords are the best. Against cavalry, it is tough luck, but i ahve found that Nord throwing slaughter horses, and Huscarls are then able to chop those knights. So no problem here.

But I dont really know what kind of archers? Rhodoks are cool but I read somewhere that Vaegir ones are better. Also it would be easier to recruit them. Also I dont know much about Sarranid ones.

Anyone would be so kind and write some info about different archers?
Thx
An army of nord husculars is the best army in the game for seiging and defending. They destroy everything. Against cavalry you need to clump them together so the cavalry gets stuck and doesn't ride though. You also can put tghem on a hill for total domination of cavalry.

Best archers are the rhodok sharpshooters. They will destroy armys if in bulk because they are so acruate and probably take at least half health on each shot to most units some 1 hit killing and they get quite a few headshots it seems. They also make sieges a nightmare.
Agree 100% Huscarls dominate sieges and infantry combat and having them "Stand Closer" will result in them slaughtering melee cavalry too, although expect some losses as even huscarls will die to a couched lance. You may struggle with Khergit horse archers though. I usually just get my guys to "Hold Fire" and they'll bring shields up and just wait till they run out of ammo. Typically when attacking khergits though I bring archers and cavalry myself.

I disagree on best archers being rhodok sharpshooters though. I would go with vaegir marksman, they have decent archery skill(140ish I think) and 4 power draw making them do very good damage. Sharpshooters might perform a little better when engaged in melee though.
 
I like using all infantry Khergit armies. I have a small group of Lancers, a large group of regular Horsemen, and then regular Horse Archers. I order everyone to dismount (if I have a large army it's a nightmare as no one can escape the horse maze) then I position the Lancers about midway down a hill. I order them to hold fire so it's a solid wall of shields. Then I place my Horsemen just behind them so they can fire their bows in safety. My horse archers I place on top of the hill and I order them to spread out.

If the enemy is bringing a lot of cavalry, I make my Lancers stand their ground. I may take one or two casualties in the charge but they usually stop all the horses, and my Horsemen will charge forward and swarm the unhorsed enemies. When the cavalry is no longer a threat I put them all back into position. The enemy archers won't do anything as my Lancers' shields are comparable to Huscarl shields. My Horse Archers up above will rain down javelins and arrows and while they're not the best with either they're almost as good as Nords in regards to accuracy with throwing weapons. While the enemy infantry closes in I have my Horsemen run out far to the side. As soon as the Lancers are engaged in melee, I order the Horsemen to charge from the flank, and the battle is won.

If it's an open plain, the same works but after cav is dealt with order your Lancers to spread out so the Horse Archers can throw their javelins between them.
 
I only use Nord Huscarls. I have them hold fire until the enemy gets in very close and then unleash a hail of throwing spears, javelins and throwing axes and I can kill almost have of the enemy by just that if we are similar in size. I personally have 2 sets of heavy balanced throwing axes and save a few for when the routing begins..  :twisted:
 
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