Best C7?

[Divilly]

What is the best elite cavalry? Barons? Hashams? Bogatyrs? What you use?

 

[Leifdin]

I like Khergit and Vaegit C7. But only because of their look and I hate Swadians.(I only use them in patrols anyway)

 

[Stalwart_Defender]

For best C7, I'd say its a tie between Swadian Baron or Sarranid Hasham, with the Vaegir Bogatyr and Khergit Cherbi trailing behind. Fifth place goes to C6 Merc Hochmeisters. This is just based on my observations though and is in no way scientific. It also boils down to personal preference since all of the C7's perform the exact same role on the battlefield and are quite close in effectiveness.

 

[Leifdin]

Oh, and don't forget that C6 mercenary hochmeister is technically C7, as well as Slaver Chief. I like those Slaver Chiefs. They are pretty effective and easy to train(though I replaced their elephant with Sarranid C7's charger)

 

[Smargoos]

Although it isn't C7 I like that club using horse man from sarranid most was something like sekbah. After that I like slaver chief. Love those prisoners.

 

[coolchucky]

I'm sort of new to this mod. I guess I've been playing for three weeks now.
So, I do not know which C7 is best but C4 Swadian Ecuyers are really lousy fighters. They keep being killed in all the battles, one by one.
I am trying to train C5 Chevaliers so I use them in every battle but I should probably try other factions cavalry.

 

[Divilly]

Slaver Cheifs are really great against Nords, and give a good profit ("knocked unconscious")

 

[J Awesome]

Not a fan of the Barons or Hashams, because they sometimes hang onto their lances for too long when they engage in melee (but wow, can they take a beating), but I usually end up with a bunch of Barons, so I use them anyways!!

 

[Leifdin]

Slaver Cheifs are really great against Nords

I think that they can steamroll anyone. I got Doge Graveth down with 76 Slaver Chiefs and 70 guys that upgrade into slaver chiefs and lost like 2 men. The tactic was:charge.

 

[Divilly]

Slaver Cheifs are really great against Nords

I think that they can steamroll anyone.

No, against Khergit isn't a good idea.
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Below is a comparison i did(less rhodoks and nords):

Strongest: Sarranid Hasham
Most agility: Khergit Cherbi
(Intelligence and charisma is useless)
Level: Swadian Barons
HP: Sarranid Hasham
1H Weapon: Sarranid Hasham
2H Weapon: Vaegir Bogatyr
Polearms: Swadian Barons
Faster: Swadian Barons and Sarranid Hasham


Conclusion: Sarranid Hasham wins

 

[Leifdin]

No, against Khergit isn't a good idea.

Why?

Strongest: Sarranid Hasham
Most agility: Khergit Cherbi
(Intelligence and charisma is useless)
Level: Swadian Barons
HP: Sarranid Hasham
1H Weapon: Sarranid Hasham
2H Weapon: Vaegir Bogatyr

Conclusion: Sarranid Hasham wins

What about polearms? Most C7 use lances, too.(Or skill doesn't matter with couching?)

 

[Divilly]

Because Khergit use much cavalry, and they're fast, so elephants are not be able to pursuit them.
I will update the comparison.

 

[Leifdin]

I gave my Slaver Chiefs horses instead of elephants

 

[Divilly]

Well, now i don't understand why you use Slaver Chiefs. They in a horse is another simple cavalry, no? I like elephants. Yeah! Smashing the enemies..

 

[Xenomion]

Well, now i don't understand why you use Slaver Chiefs. They in a horse is another simple cavalry, no? I like elephants. Yeah! Smashing the enemies..

A lot of people (including me) find that they're really, really unbalanced and totally breaking the gameplay.
Try to have only 50 Chiefs in your party for example. You're ready to beat pretty much any party (but horse archers, so maybe Khergits will be a bit more tough to fight). Plus, I was stunned when I saw that only a handful of Chiefs (15 or 20) could defend my castle against the WHOLE Swadian army (which was around 800 men before the fight).

 

[Smargoos]

Well, now i don't understand why you use Slaver Chiefs. They in a horse is another simple cavalry, no? I like elephants. Yeah! Smashing the enemies..

A lot of people (including me) find that they're really, really unbalanced and totally breaking the gameplay.
Try to have only 50 Chiefs in your party for example. You're ready to beat pretty much any party (but horse archers, so maybe Khergits will be a bit more tough to fight). Plus, I was stunned when I saw that only a handful of Chiefs (15 or 20) could defend my castle against the WHOLE Swadian army (which was around 800 men before the fight).

Really? Gotta try to put 20 slaver chiefs in all my castles and try it out.

 

[thomasNL01]

slaver chiefs are perhaps game breaking, but you dont have to use them.
Only the player can get them, because the ai doesnt upgrade their troops.
As such, you can just not use them, instead of saying they are gamebreaking.

 

[Smargoos]

slaver chiefs are perhaps game breaking, but you dont have to use them.
Only the player can get them, because the ai doesnt upgrade their troops.
As such, you can just not use them, instead of saying they are gamebreaking.

Well my game play style is that I exploit everything that isn't restricted
I think that AI can have them but it's very slim chance.

 

[Divilly]

To me elephants don't break the game. If the elephant be stopped, infantry can easily beat "it" and kill the soldier. And in battles of defending castles, only 15-20 slaver chiefs can defeat an entira swadian army(800-more)? I don't believe...

 

[Leifdin]

Well, now i don't understand why you use Slaver Chiefs. They in a horse is another simple cavalry, no? I like elephants. Yeah! Smashing the enemies..

Now they are C7 who are trained as simply as C6 and they have blunt weapons. And now they beat Khergits.