Best 2 hander weapon with the longest reach

[Persnychite]

Yep, I've only ever played Native vanilla and have purchased a balanced military scythe in each of my last two games.

 

[Ringwraith #5]

Huh, that's odd. I could've sworn in wasn't for sale.

 

[Sir Lulzalot]

I've never found it to be a good weapon anyways. I always liked the glaive better, the scythe seems to stab far more often than you swing with. And if I recall correctly you can't even swing with it side to side anyways, only overhand.

 

[Ludial]

I've never found it to be a good weapon anyways. I always liked the glaive better, the scythe seems to stab far more often than you swing with. And if I recall correctly you can't even swing with it side to side anyways, only overhand.

that would be the military scythe, which is a polearm. We're talking about the shortened military scythe, which is possibly the most gruesomely deadly twohander in Native

 

[Sir Lulzalot]

Ah yes, well then I agree.

 

[avesta]

I've never found it to be a good weapon anyways. I always liked the glaive better, the scythe seems to stab far more often than you swing with. And if I recall correctly you can't even swing with it side to side anyways, only overhand.

that would be the military scythe, which is a polearm. We're talking about the shortened military scythe, which is possibly the most gruesomely deadly twohander in Native

it has only 47c damage and less reach than most two handed swords. Why give up all that range for 2 attack more?

 

[Flingit]

Okay, so it's Native Expansion, but the long axe is the best - 62C damage, 122 reach, bonus against shields.  Creates some gratifyingly large blood sprays, and can easily go over 300 damage when you hit someone just right.....,

 

[Night Ninja]

Okay, so it's Native Expansion, but the long axe is the best - 62C damage, 122 reach, bonus against shields.  Creates some gratifyingly large blood sprays, and can easily go over 300 damage when you hit someone just right.....,

Hey, I have a totally ****ing unbalanced weapon too! My bastard sword is wielded in two hands and has 200 reach, and does 120c damage! Jeebus, mentioning NE's weapons in a thread about Native is like comparing those bloody wuxia comics to real life.

As others have already mentioned, the poleaxe is an excellent weapon with a very long reach. If it weren't for the mediocre cut damage (compared to two handed swords and the like) and the crappy model...

 

[Ludial]

I've never found it to be a good weapon anyways. I always liked the glaive better, the scythe seems to stab far more often than you swing with. And if I recall correctly you can't even swing with it side to side anyways, only overhand.

that would be the military scythe, which is a polearm. We're talking about the shortened military scythe, which is possibly the most gruesomely deadly twohander in Native

it has only 47c damage and less reach than most two handed swords. Why give up all that range for 2 attack more?

for the same reasons the bastard sword is the best 2h weapon out there - the blade simply bites. With a great sword I barely manage to land powerful strikes even at PS 6, and same goes for many other weapons(such as the poleaxe), but with a bastard or shortened scythe the are barely no hits that do little to no damage. I guess it has to do with the shape and balance of a weapon. But like I said, these two blades simply bite

 

[Salocin]

I like the berdiche, it has a good range and i mainly use it for sieges when fighting the enemies on the walls, becaus it has a powerful strike. i think it does like 42 damage but im not sure

 

[darkweaver]

for the same reasons the bastard sword is the best 2h weapon out there - the blade simply bites. With a great sword I barely manage to land powerful strikes even at PS 6, and same goes for many other weapons(such as the poleaxe), but with a bastard or shortened scythe the are barely no hits that do little to no damage. I guess it has to do with the shape and balance of a weapon. But like I said, these two blades simply bite

That's really odd - I've been using a great sword (the type with reach 120, NOT the one that looks like the sword of war), with PS 6, and while there's the occasional hit for 30 or so, I've had plenty of very high hits in the 200 range.  I'd estimate vs sea raiders 2 out of 3 hits are 1-shot kills.  It really seems to depend on which way you're facing as you strike and ofc how far the target is.

I wonder if bastard sword/shortened scythe actually have different characteristics, or if it's just the shorter range makes it a little easier to score a max-range hit.  I oughta try those out just for fun, but I have a feeling I'd miss the range on the great sword, especially for the few times I'm using it on horseback.  Plus it just looks cool

 

[Kamamura]

ok thanks for the help. Is there such a weapon like a huge 2 handed schimitar i am not aware of? My new fav weapon is that fast slash and hack schimitar (only like 300 in the game too).

Not in Native, but Sword of Damocles has this little thingy:

隐藏

Wow, that's one fugly looking sword. Blade like scimitar, but crossguard resembling a sword (with mighty silly shape).

 

[Ringwraith #5]

Well yes, it is a bit of a mongrel, but why exactly would the crossguard be silly?

 

[Ludial]

for the same reasons the bastard sword is the best 2h weapon out there - the blade simply bites. With a great sword I barely manage to land powerful strikes even at PS 6, and same goes for many other weapons(such as the poleaxe), but with a bastard or shortened scythe the are barely no hits that do little to no damage. I guess it has to do with the shape and balance of a weapon. But like I said, these two blades simply bite

That's really odd - I've been using a great sword (the type with reach 120, NOT the one that looks like the sword of war), with PS 6, and while there's the occasional hit for 30 or so, I've had plenty of very high hits in the 200 range.  I'd estimate vs sea raiders 2 out of 3 hits are 1-shot kills.  It really seems to depend on which way you're facing as you strike and ofc how far the target is.

I wonder if bastard sword/shortened scythe actually have different characteristics, or if it's just the shorter range makes it a little easier to score a max-range hit.  I oughta try those out just for fun, but I have a feeling I'd miss the range on the great sword, especially for the few times I'm using it on horseback.  Plus it just looks cool

I'm guessing it might have to do with the shorter range too. Makes it rather easier to play with the tip of the blade. Never tried the grey greatsword because it's so damn slow. And the bastard and shortened scythe are perfect for horseback. Idk, but still, I think these two sweeties simply bite

 

[darkweaver]

I'm guessing it might have to do with the shorter range too. Makes it rather easier to play with the tip of the blade. Never tried the grey greatsword because it's so damn slow. And the bastard and shortened scythe are perfect for horseback. Idk, but still, I think these two sweeties simply bite

Tried out those two, they're quite fun, especially the scythe, though a balanced bastard sword's speed is pretty nice.

My problem on horseback isn't so much hitting the target, but the horse taking too much damage.  Clearly if you're doing a rideby on an otherwise-occupied enemy, there's no problem, but if they're paying attention (inasmuch as the AI can do so), the horse just eats it sometimes. 

Any tips?  Do you think it's possible to become efficient enough w/ those weapons on horseback to, say, solo 40 sea raiders the way you could with a horse + lance (non couched), where it's relatively easy to time so that they die before they can reach the horse with a swing?

 

[Ringwraith #5]

Any tips?  Do you think it's possible to become efficient enough w/ those weapons on horseback to, say, solo 40 sea raiders the way you could with a horse + lance (non couched), where it's relatively easy to time so that they die before they can reach the horse with a swing?

Oh definitely. The other way around, though: You come around and let them take a swing, veer away to avoid it, then come back for the kill while they're recovering.

 

[Ludial]

I'm guessing it might have to do with the shorter range too. Makes it rather easier to play with the tip of the blade. Never tried the grey greatsword because it's so damn slow. And the bastard and shortened scythe are perfect for horseback. Idk, but still, I think these two sweeties simply bite

Tried out those two, they're quite fun, especially the scythe, though a balanced bastard sword's speed is pretty nice.

My problem on horseback isn't so much hitting the target, but the horse taking too much damage.  Clearly if you're doing a rideby on an otherwise-occupied enemy, there's no problem, but if they're paying attention (inasmuch as the AI can do so), the horse just eats it sometimes. 

Any tips?  Do you think it's possible to become efficient enough w/ those weapons on horseback to, say, solo 40 sea raiders the way you could with a horse + lance (non couched), where it's relatively easy to time so that they die before they can reach the horse with a swing?

well, mount vs. mount, I'd say you have to be quicker and hit hard. For which purpose a balanced bastard without shield is simply perfect.

 

[darkweaver]

Oh definitely. The other way around, though: You come around and let them take a swing, veer away to avoid it, then come back for the kill while they're recovering.

well, mount vs. mount, I'd say you have to be quicker and hit hard. For which purpose a balanced bastard without shield is simply perfect.

Thanks, I'll have to try that.  Sounds trickier and more fun.  And also sounds like going at a gallop isn't going to work for that either, which may expose me to more ranged fire.  So again, trickier and potentially more fun 

Mount vs mount is a bit easier, you if you get the right angle on them, you're pretty safe.  Hmm - I wonder if you can do overhead swing w/ a bastard sword w/o shield on horseback.  I actually find that swing convenient mount vs mount and miss it using a true 2-hander.

I really love this game - so much depth, so many things to try that initially seemed nonviable...

 

[ponty94]

Glaive is AWESOME on foot, aggainst infantry and horses due to its huge reach and damage.

Excellent in sieges becuase you can sit on the ramp and chop everyone that are against the walls.

 

[Ludial]

Thanks, I'll have to try that.  Sounds trickier and more fun.  And also sounds like going at a gallop isn't going to work for that either, which may expose me to more ranged fire.  So again, trickier and potentially more fun 

Mount vs mount is a bit easier, you if you get the right angle on them, you're pretty safe.  Hmm - I wonder if you can do overhead swing w/ a bastard sword w/o shield on horseback.  I actually find that swing convenient mount vs mount and miss it using a true 2-hander.

I really love this game - so much depth, so many things to try that initially seemed nonviable...

actually, I love using the bastard on foot against horsemen. It's so much fun. When I'm being charged, I simply stand still, sword primed, so the son of a whore coming at me would keep a straight line while approaching. Then, at the last moment, I dodge left and cut with a right hand swing. With good athletics, good reflex, and enough PS behind the sword, anything below hunter dies, often times along with the rider With my archer commander even hunters go down sometimes because by the time they reach my line, they look like pincushions. After the charge it's simply hack-slash-stabbity-chop-chop, for which I find the bastard to be perfect because of it's nearly perfect balance of speed, reach and power; when attacking a warhorse rider wading through the mass of my marksmen, it's exactly the tip of the blade that cuts through his back