Becoming a vassal is too easy

[Csatádi]

The mercenary phase is very short. It would be better if we are required to have a tier 3 clan to become a vassal. Renown accumulates quickly in battles.
This would fit the fact all NPC clans are at least tier 3.

 

[Ask]

I agree that becoming a vassal and also marriage are too easy, being a vassal requires too little renown, and getting married is something you can do at the very start of the game with 0 renown and 0 relations if you cheese enough early money for the dowry.

 

[murtega]

Agreed. Neutral lords don't even let you into their keeps when you're tier2, even if you're a vassal of other kingdom.
The game overall progresses too fast. In 2 game years from a peasant rescuing your siblings, you become a vassal who owns several settlements. Influence and renown gain needs rework, well, entire campaign does actually. Though it's pretty obvious they will not do anything about it.

 

[guiskj]

Although I agree, it is not as simple.

TW shouldn't delay becoming a vassal without also making being a mercenary more engaging. Otherwise this change would make things worse as it would block you away from gameplay while giving you nothing in return.

 

[Csatádi]

Although I agree, it is not as simple.

TW shouldn't delay becoming a vassal without also making being a mercenary more engaging. Otherwise this change would make things worse as it would block you away from gameplay while giving you nothing in return.

I don't understand what gameplay you might think of. You play exactly the same way. The only difference is the reward.
The grind/reward aren't in sync. This is a general "problem" with the game anyway. Many key things are either too easy or too hard to archieve.

 

[guiskj]

You play exactly the same way.

The unchecked hyperbole of our times is making civil discourse very difficult.

You can't own a fief as a mercenary, unless you do gimmicky things like taking a fief right after it rebels.
You can't form armies as a mercenary.
Being able to do these two things is the bread and butter of Bannerlord. The ability to call an army is what unlocks the mid-to-late game. Until then you are forced to either use your party only or depend on joining the battles the AI has chosen to pursue.

 

[Csatádi]

Yeah, you cannot gather army, that's true.

The ability to call an army is what unlocks the mid-to-late game. Until then you are forced to either use your party only or depend on joining the battles the AI has chosen to pursue.

I think the mercenary phase belongs to the early game.