Becoming a 'Medieval Godfather': Fight for Me or I Kill you..Using 'Recruit Prisoners Immediately'

[LordOfAll]

One of the very first things I noticed in playing the game was the extremely frustrating occurrence of having waves and waves of enemies descend on the player's army when doing a siege. Essentially, the player's army dwindles down to where the siege must be abandoned.

But, no more! I have become the 'Medieval Godfather' and make my prisoners an 'offer they can't refuse'!

Using 'Recruit Prisoners immediately' allows me, after each battle at a siege location, to immediately recruit any or all of my prisoners. They are very willing to fight for me and keep their heads!

Now, I am back at full strength to take on the next wave of snowflakes.

Seriously, what precedes is rather 'tongue in cheek' but points out a real issue with attempting a siege on your own. Even if you are a vassal of a kingdom, you may have low influence and cannot summon help and create an army.

Yes, the mod 'Recruit Prisoners Immediately' does exist and I use it.

Is there an answer to this issue that can be organically incorporated into the game? No.

 

[TheCalradian]

Yes, it is a bit strange that opportunistic brigands are so eager to die for nothing. They have no cause, no hope for survival, no nothing. They all seem to just choose death out of spite.

 

[LordOfAll]

"I've never seen them so eager to die..." Kate, Fallout4

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

Essentially, the player's army dwindles down to where the siege must be abandoned

Stop letting you men get killed. Get gooder. I took Chakaind with about 70 guys, 30 of em were just forest bandits. I lost about 4.

 

[LordOfAll]

I done got gooder.
Not talking about actually siege. I'm Talking about during the siege process where army getting attacked by multiple waves of enemies during 'Siege camp building' etc. I can fight off only so many but eventually facing 4 or 5 to 1 odds.

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

I done got gooder.
Not talking about actually siege. I'm Talking about during the siege process where army getting attacked by multiple waves of enemies during 'Siege camp building' etc. I can fight off only so many but eventually facing 4 or 5 to 1 odds.

I was talking about that too. Get even more gooder and be the goodist!

 

[LordOfAll]

ok ... so ... when you were assaulting Chaikland, how many men did you have when you FIRST started the siege? Then, how many enemy assaulted YOU while you were building the siege camp, the ladders, and maybe the siege engines?

What I am saying is that if I have 150 men when I begin the siege and a total of 700 enemy assault me... I am gonna lose many men that cannot be replaced and I am going to lose. I ain't that gooder!

Now if you are saying that you had 70 men LEFT when you assaulted the castle, I can buy into that .... depending on how many defenders were in the castle.

Really, what I am doing with the mod is an obvious 'cheat' and is something no respectable dev would put into the game. But I would never tell.

Secondarily, when I am a vassal and have a lot of 'influence', I form an army and use that for my sieges. The funny thing is that when I do win, I take in the prisoners then 'donate' them to the castle or town, and get the influence I spent back! What a country!!

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

In this recent 1.4.3 instance it turn out I had 90 +3w when I started

And 61 +17w when it was over and had to deal with these sorry SOBS


During the camp build I had to fight several with parties of the 200-300 range and I also had baby.

I've done the same shenanigans before though with less men and less losses, but I had a pure heavy HA warband I think.


The thing is though, the stupid garrison sallys out when you're small so you don't have build siege equipment to take down walls and ballastas. In later games with a big party they chicken out and in the process of taking the walls down many, many full armies will come to fight me, but by then I have 200+ top tier units and they're just nuisance.

 

[Olympeus]

In this recent 1.4.3 instance it turn out I had 90 +3w when I started

And 61 +17w when it was over and had to deal with these sorry SOBS


During the camp build I had to fight several with parties of the 200-300 range and I also had baby.

I've done the same shenanigans before though with less men and less losses, but I had a pure heavy HA warband I think.


The thing is though, the stupid garrison sallys out when you're small so you don't have build siege equipment to take down walls and ballastas. In later games with a big party they chicken out and in the process of taking the walls down many, many full armies will come to fight me, but by then I have 200+ top tier units and they're just nuisance.

very easy settings?

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

very easy settings?

all realistic, challenging and enabled death (doesn't do anything yet).