BEAST - Bannerlord Early Access Skirmish Tournament

[Ikea Knight]

Tiebreaker vote: ​

Since there were a few complaints on too many draws due to matchups in the past two seasons, we're also voting on a tiebreaker rule:
Each team that has signed up with at least 6 Steam links on their roster may have 1 vote cast by the captain.

Option A) The match will be won by the team with the higher number of sets won. If both teams have an equal amount of sets won, the match results in a draw. Rounds won are not taken into account. ( Current system)

Option B) The match will be won by the team with the higer number of rounds won. If both teams have an equal amount of rounds won, the match results in a draw. Sets won are not taken into account. ( Warband competetive system)

Option C) The match will be won by the team with the higher number of sets won. If both teams have the same amount of sets won, the win is given to the team with the higher number of rounds won. If both teams have an equal amount of sets and rounds won, the match results in a draw. (Hybrid System)

Voting template:

Clan/Team:
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option A: The current system / B: Warband's competetive system / C: the Hybrid System

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Please note:

• Without class restrictions there will be in game badges for participants
• Only votes from clans who have signed up here are eligible to be counted
• Clans who vote twice will have their second vote disregarded, please edit the first vote and post again saying the post is edited.
• Where a vote is listed by someone other than those noted as a team leader in thesign up thread that vote will be disregarded.

Deadline for the voting is 25th of January.

Spoiler: Vote table

Team	Eligible	Tie Breaker
Alliance of Destruction	Yes	C
Battle Brothers	Yes	C
Black Team	Yes	B
Bohemian Guard	Yes	B
Boynuzlu Kurtlar Partisi	Yes	B
Chide Village	Yes
Defenders of Faith	Yes	B
Defenders of Fish	Yes	B
Destiny Makers	Yes	C
Destiny Manipulators	Yes	C
Destiny Masters	Yes	C
Deutschritter Furor	Yes	C
Deutschritter Luxuria	Yes	C
Deutschritter Superbia	Yes	C
Divitiarum Chao	Yes
Divitiarum Ordo	Yes
Gods of War	No
GrandTURK	No
Greedy Goblins	Yes
Greenskinz	No
Hawkband 1	No
Hawkband 2	No
High Five	Yes
High Five Second Team	Yes
High Five Third Team	Yes
House-Hessian	Yes
Imperium Polski	No
Irish Rebels	Yes
Keyboard Warriors Dark	Yes
Keyboard Warriors Grey	Yes
Knights of Andales	No
Légion du Cerbère	No
Men of Borr	Yes
Risen Manifest Golden Team	Yes	B
Savage French Baguette	Yes
Simia Gentem	Yes	C
Taleworlds	Yes	C
TCB	No
The Holy Inquisition	Yes
The Holy Inquisition 2	Yes	C
The Resolute	Yes
Vineyard Workers	Yes	B
Wicked Tavern Fanatics	Yes	B
Wicked Tavern Fanatics 2	Yes

 

[Silvernj]

Clan/Team: Alliance of Destruction
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option C: the Hybrid System

 

[TheBard]

Clan/Team: Deutschritter Luxuria (formerly Acedia)
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option C: the Hybrid System

 

[Ikea Knight]

Clan/Team: Deutschritter
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option C: the Hybrid System

Sure you do.
I think it's fair to mention that Bard was the first to propose this option to us.

 

[Dest_wastaken]

I dont like cluttering these types of threads but may i ask whay arent we considering using the total round differential as the main metric?
It might not be the majority selection but why isnt an option, why is it unnatural to consider?
In option A; when draw there is no difference between a 6-6 or 10-6, or in a win there is no difference between 9-8 and 12-0.
In option B; again do difference between 7-6 and 12-0.
In option C; so an 11-11 means lose for one team win here? (this applies to option A aswell)
Or do I understand option B wrong?

 

[Alboin]

Clan/Team: Vineyard Workers
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option B: Warband's competitive system

 

[TheBard]

I dont like cluttering these types of threads but may i ask whay arent we considering using the total round differential as the main metric?
It might not be the majority selection but why isnt an option, why is it unnatural to consider?
In option A; when draw there is no difference between a 6-6 or 10-6, or in a win there is no difference between 9-8 and 12-0.
In option B; again do difference between 7-6 and 12-0.
In option C; so an 11-11 means lose for one team win here? (this applies to option A aswell)
Or do I understand option B wrong?

The Hybrid system takes account of won sets and is a compromise between both ideas.
You can still draw though! If you have both two sets and the number of rounds then is tied, it's a draw.

 

[Ikea Knight]

I dont like cluttering these types of threads but may i ask whay arent we considering using the total round differential as the main metric?
It might not be the majority selection but why isnt an option, why is it unnatural to consider?
In option A; when draw there is no difference between a 6-6 or 10-6, or in a win there is no difference between 9-8 and 12-0.
In option B; again do difference between 7-6 and 12-0.
In option C; so an 11-11 means lose for one team win here? (this applies to option A aswell)
Or do I understand option B wrong?

No I think option B is what you want. In option B the winner is only decided by rounds. I actually thought I was rather clear when describing them - so the team with better rounddifference wins.


Maybe let's describe it in slightly more detail:

The worst possible outcome is: Team Yellow 3 (9)-(9) 1 Team Blue

after option A team Team yellow wins because it has the most sets.

after option B it's a draw since both teams have the same amount of rounds (or talking in round difference, the difference would be 0. )

after option C team A won again because we first look at the sets and only if they are even rounds are taken into account.

 

[NIN3]

Clan/Team: Taleworlds
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option C: the Hybrid System

 

[Dest_wastaken]

Thats not what im asking, not the win conditions. Win conditions are clear.
But in option B: does the ranking order decided by total round differential when tourney ends, or do you get 3 points for each win and 1 from draw? Are we are still giving same 3 points for 9-5 and 12-0 as the main ranking statistic. Thats what annoys me the most.

 

[Ikea Knight]

Ah yes.

You still get 3 points for winning and
1 for a draw.

So both 9-5 and 12-0 would give 3 points.

Or do you want to suggest, that 9-5 should give fewer points than 12-0 ?

 

[Dest_wastaken]

Ah yes.

You still get 3 points for winning and
1 for a draw.

So both 9-5 and 12-0 would give 3 points.

Or do you want to suggest, that 9-5 should give fewer points than 12-0 ?

Exactly. At least if B is selected, that phenomenon shouldnt be allowed, yes. Other options give less reason to try when you are at a faction disadvantage, gives more motive to keep fighting hard like this imho.

 

[Horatius]

I wod suggest to keep things focussed on sets because then you can lose a round to gain more eco and win the set.

Also maybe base the points you get on sets? So the amount of points you get is based on the amount of sets you have won or something like that?

 

[Dark ?]

Or do you want to suggest, that 9-5 should give fewer points than 12-0 ?

a win is a win so winning 12-0 or 9-8 is the same thing you will get your three points the difference will be in the difference of rounds which will influence the ranking.

 

[Ikea Knight]

I think we shouldn't change points given for wins and draws to keep the score comparable.

Keep in mind that while every team faces each other team, the factions and maps change.

A win shouldn't be more than a win, and same goes for draws loses. Otherwise easy matches influence the ranking too much.

 

[BaronDeMoroz]

Clan/Team: Black Team
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option B: Warband's competetive system

 

[The Last Vandal]

Clan/Team: The Holy Inquisition 2
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option C: the Hybrid System

 

[Champion Relexan Forzen]

Clan/Team: Risen Manifest Golden Team
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option B: Warband's Competitive System

 

[Rangah]

Clan/Team: Simia Gentem
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option C: the Hybrid System

 

[wermoncz]

Clan/Team: Bohemian Guard
I want to vote on Tiebreaker Option B: Warband's competetive system