Bannerlord's Anticheat?

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Gazzz

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Just a question i feel that should be answered if it has not been already, what will taleworlds be doing for anti-cheat in bannerlord? As there is next to no anti-cheat system built into the warband, currently it is up to the community to point fingers at each other as their best way to tell if someone is auto-blocking or being able to spot it from putting in to many hours in multiplayer for example.
 
At least there will be official servers this time. The admins on some US servers wont ban cheaters when I provided substantial evidence and some cheat themselves.
 
Dest45 说:
At least there will be official servers this time. The admins on some US servers wont ban cheaters when I provided substantial evidence and some cheat themselves.
Thats my point, there is no proper way to prove it fully or most dont care anymore. Its why i'd rather not leave it up to people but an anti-cheat, one that actually works mind you. The only time a human should be involved is when someone innocent has been caught by the system just because they got on a bit of a spree.

However some people may just be really good at the game since alot of the good people on multiplayer have 3000 hours easy so not all are cheating.
 
I completely agree the game needs a strong anti-cheat. Every multiplayer game needs one.
 
Gazzz 说:
Just a question i feel that should be answered if it has not been already, what will taleworlds be doing for anti-cheat in bannerlord? As there is next to no anti-cheat system built into the warband, currently it is up to the community to point fingers at each other as their best way to tell if someone is auto-blocking or being able to spot it from putting in to many hours in multiplayer for example.

There are plenty of people that autoblock, but they are all trash. I doubt I have ever lost in a fight against someone autoblocking, most of the (infantry) game is in your timed attacks, footwork and positional awareness, not the blocking. People who actually know how to play the game are a far bigger threat and it's very difficult to find out the blocking skill difference between someone with 2000+ hours and someone that autoblocks, because that high hours player will be blocking instinctively with such success rates that would be higher than people using autoblock who don't know timing or footwork.

Ultimately I don't think that autoblock is or ever has been a problem, and likely what a lot of people are complaining about isn't autoblockers but just higher level players they don't understand.
 
Sundeki 说:
Gazzz 说:
Just a question i feel that should be answered if it has not been already, what will taleworlds be doing for anti-cheat in bannerlord? As there is next to no anti-cheat system built into the warband, currently it is up to the community to point fingers at each other as their best way to tell if someone is auto-blocking or being able to spot it from putting in to many hours in multiplayer for example.

There are plenty of people that autoblock, but they are all trash. I doubt I have ever lost in a fight against someone autoblocking, most of the (infantry) game is in your timed attacks, footwork and positional awareness, not the blocking. People who actually know how to play the game are a far bigger threat and it's very difficult to find out the blocking skill difference between someone with 2000+ hours and someone that autoblocks, because that high hours player will be blocking instinctively with such success rates that would be higher than people using autoblock who don't know timing or footwork.

Ultimately I don't think that autoblock is or ever has been a problem, and likely what a lot of people are complaining about isn't autoblockers but just higher level players they don't understand.
This isnt a complaint thread mate and i aint accusing people of auto blocking, meerly using it as an example of one of the many cheats in the game currently. I have 3912 hours in the game(though im well aware of people having 5000 hours+ easily) so i do have a fair amount of experience in the game (most of it multiplayer) but i only bothered to make a forum account recently. I was asking because i am well aware of the lack of anti cheat on this game and i am just curious if taleworlds are taking strong steps to avoid this issue within the community.

And sure, people that auto are not too much bother for people that have 3000+ hours in the game, however for newer players this is not the case.
 
Gazzz 说:
Sundeki 说:
Gazzz 说:
Just a question i feel that should be answered if it has not been already, what will taleworlds be doing for anti-cheat in bannerlord? As there is next to no anti-cheat system built into the warband, currently it is up to the community to point fingers at each other as their best way to tell if someone is auto-blocking or being able to spot it from putting in to many hours in multiplayer for example.

There are plenty of people that autoblock, but they are all trash. I doubt I have ever lost in a fight against someone autoblocking, most of the (infantry) game is in your timed attacks, footwork and positional awareness, not the blocking. People who actually know how to play the game are a far bigger threat and it's very difficult to find out the blocking skill difference between someone with 2000+ hours and someone that autoblocks, because that high hours player will be blocking instinctively with such success rates that would be higher than people using autoblock who don't know timing or footwork.

Ultimately I don't think that autoblock is or ever has been a problem, and likely what a lot of people are complaining about isn't autoblockers but just higher level players they don't understand.
This isnt a complaint thread mate and i aint accusing people of auto blocking, meerly using it as an example of one of the many cheats in the game currently. I have 3912 hours in the game(though im well aware of people having 5000 hours+ easily) so i do have a fair amount of experience in the game (most of it multiplayer) but i only bothered to make a forum account recently. I was asking because i am well aware of the lack of anti cheat on this game and i am just curious if taleworlds are taking strong steps to avoid this issue within the community.

I was not saying you specifically were complaining, only that most of the people that are complaining were likely incorrect in their assumptions that people they were fighting against were using autoblockers.

I was also not commenting on the actual thread idea which was specifically talking about whether or not there will be anti-cheat in Bannerlord, but rather commenting on what was brought up about autoblockers and other cheaters in Warband, which I was merely highlighting as mostly irrelevant. Given that Bannerlord will have a matchmaking system that determines game placements based roughly upon skill, then yes, an anti-cheat system that actually works will be neccesary for the matchmaking.

And sure, people that auto are not too much bother for people that have 3000+ hours in the game, however for newer players this is not the case.

The point I was making in this regard is that for a new player, there is no real difference between a bottom feeder using an autoblocker and a thousands-hour player blocking everything through skill. The new player is still going to get dominated. While I won't say the issue doesn't exist, I merely say that it is ultimately irrelevant. The whole mindset of using an autoblocker, like other hackers, is to be able to do things that others cannot and (generally speaking) make people upset by dominating them. Only thing is that Warband requires an understanding of the game and it's mechanics on an instinctual level to play at the highest level. As such autoblocker users and other hackers will always be playing second fiddle to the high level players., which makes using them a waste of time from the mindset of people that generally do hack. And those that do end up staying get **** on anyway. The new players will always get **** on in an open server list system by people anyway.

I'm saying from a purely Warband multiplayer perspective that autoblocking is virtually irrelevant.
 
Balexander 说:
You mean HACK NOT CHEAT "AUTO BLOCK,AIM etc IS A HACK"

In my opinion AUTO BLOCK AIM ESP isn't a real Hack it's just a sneaky Cheat.
You can speak about a HACK if it also effects other Players like unlimited health or super strength or flying.
Some Server sided ****.(Exploits)

And I didn't care about an ANTI CHEAT System, cause I am not interested in the Multiplayer.
They should focus on the game itself and if they realy need a ANTI CHEAT System then they should pay another Company for this, like https://www.easy.ac/

I realy hope that they will release the game soon.
 
Dest45 说:
At least there will be official servers this time. The admins on some US servers wont ban cheaters when I provided substantial evidence and some cheat themselves.

Because most of our admins over here cheat lol.
 
@Shadow4495
I didn't care about multiplayer either. But this game have multiplayer part of it and a multiplayer game without an anti cheat system isn't a multiplayer game at all. If this prolongs the game development, I am okay with that.
 
BayBear 说:
Callum did mention sometime ago they are looking into anti-cheat. No word since then.

We will definitely have anti-cheat in Bannerlord multiplayer. I can't say much more about it at this moment in time, but it will be there.
 
Callum_TaleWorlds 说:
BayBear 说:
Callum did mention sometime ago they are looking into anti-cheat. No word since then.

We will definitely have anti-cheat in Bannerlord multiplayer. I can't say much more about it at this moment in time, but it will be there.

Understandable, thanks for the response
 
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