The OP is keeping it alive through subtle bumping that borders on spam. We are just puppets in his scheme to feed the thread through controversy.
Don’t forget me.
I mean reading his last post, that doesn't seem to be what he is saying though.
It is precisely what I am saying.
But anyway I have been on the internet long enough to know when I am talking to someone who enjoys arguing for the sake of arguing
. This seems rather pointless. Kind of like this thread, and yet here we are keeping it alive.
I argue because I care about the game and I don’t want to conversation to be dominated by faulty points. There are valid critiques to be made, and there is a reason why I don’t argue with those.
Well, they are ignorant of why it is bad. Like I mentioned, when you are ignorant (lacking the knowledge) of the fact of something better (in this case Warband), it is not an insult to say you are ignorant, it is just a statement of fact. I will agree that incompetent is a bit over the line, however, it was just a hyperbolic way of extending my point of them not having any idea about why the game is bad, just enjoying their time with the blinders on. Think Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
Edit: This was in response to Roy, not Eddie. I’m an idiot.
While yes, the ignorant part is less insulting, it stills kinda gives people a chance to feel superior. I also really don’t think that the second someone plays WB they will think that BL sucks. I think that this viewpoint is coming from a very heavy bias, due to the fact that a majority of forum users are M&B veterans that have spent thousands of hours in WB, so it makes sense to think that people will immediately prefer WB which I just don’t think is the case. There are reasons to prefer BL over WB, like its graphical improvements, clan system, character deaths, and other things. The game still needs work, but there are more reasons then just ignorance to prefer BL.
And after taking a philosophy course and college, please don’t bring philosophy into this. I swear if I hear “allegory of the cave” one more time I might die.
After scrolling up and reading a bit more again, I see that there is thought that I think that people who have played Warband and like Bannerlord are stupid. I did not make this argument, but I do agree with it. People who prefer Bannerlord to Warband are dumb and I will argue to the death about why they are stupid.
I really cannot disagree with that more. People can like different things and not be stupid. It literally comes down to subjective tastes.
I suppose the specific phrasing is problematic. After having googled synonyms for ignorant, if you prefer "untaught" we can use that from now on.
I'd prefer neither honestly.
I don't think if you've played warband for 10 hours you will immediately hate Bannerlord, but the vast majority (I would say 90-95%) of people who have played more than 100 hours on warband and actually understand how it works will prefer Warband to Bannerlord.
Yeah, your evidence doesn't really hold up. This is because you are asking questions to WB players who, after having put a lot of time into the game and BL not being finished, will most likely prefer WB. This evidence doesn't really represent the whole of the M&B community, it represents the "old guard" of WB. This evidence doesn't really prove anything.
There are some aspects in which Bannerlord is superior to Warband, however, most of those are largely irrelevant to the overall gameplay and feel of the game. Things like Clan Systems and character families aren't going to be the make-or-break features that you care about. It would take a seriously dishonest or mentally deficient person to argue that the experience in Bannerlord is more enjoyable than Warband. Sure, its reasonable to say that your experience in Bannerlord is enjoyable, but more than Warband, if you have met the above criteria and know what you're talking about? No.
And a lot of the requests that people have for what they want in BL that are in WB, such as lord duels, manhunters, and feasts aren't going to be make or break features for a large portion of the playerbase.
And no, it wouldn't take a mentally deficient person to argue that the experience in BL is more enjoyable than that of WB, because that is a subjective opinion and you are clearly showing your bias right now. To say that the entirety of those who disagree with you on which game they prefer are mentally deficient shows that you simply just do not want to have an actual conversation. You like WB, I like BL. Neither game is perfect, and neither game is leagues better than the other. Both have their pros and their cons, but one can prefer one over the other.