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Rhade

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This may or may not be the correct forum, admins, please feel free to move the post to the proper location.

I'm curious as how to remove a ban.

I'm also curious if it's within an admin's intended role to kick and ban players for playing the game.

I believe, most of the time, players get banned who deserve to, and that's when they're disrupting testing, being disruptive, or causing havoc and intentionally griefing on the server. I definitely am not the sort of player to scream "ADMIN ABOOSE" when the player deserved the punishment. However, I strongly disagree with kicking and banning a tester because an admin disagrees with the player not attacking the target the admin wanted, even if it was not feasible.

I was in the NA battle server, at which point a certain "BOLO The Bear" kicked me for the reason of me not engaging the target he wanted me to, but instead, moving onto a more advantageous target; I had an enemy fighting a friendly player in close quarters, and did not want to charge and get my horse rearing and killed because of it, so I moved on to the next target to kill him -- I was kicked before I could reach him. The admin, "Bolo_The_Bear", had even previously implied that we were "dueling nazis", which not only is abusive language, but not acceptable behavior from an admin. Kicked from the server that I have been playing in for the last few months, providing feedback, and doing a lot of testing for Taleworlds. Many, many people have played with me here, and know that I never break rules, nor do I infringe upon the testing process.

I understand an admin's role is to make sure the beta testing process is not infringed; however, kicking and banning someone because you don't like their "honorable" play style when they choose, at times, to allow an enemy to fight if he's already engaged, and choosing to pick another target. All players on the server had been, for the past 6 hours or so, letting the last player from each time take the remaining enemies one at a time -- Partly out of respect, as all the players in the server have been playing for quite some time, and know each other, but also to further balance out and test the new weapon speeds/mechanics. This is not infringing upon the testing process, nor is it breaking rules, it's simply a gameplay decision. I reflected this in my questions when I re-joined the server after being kicked randomly -- I mentioned to the admin that me being kicked for choosing to engage another target was like being kicked for blocking an attack. It has nothing to do with server rules, the beta testing process, nor am I hurting anyone else in any way whatsoever. To further prove my point, when I killed my next enemy, I stated "Well, guess you better kick him too, for dying", further illustrating the foolishness of kicking players for naturally occuring gameplay mechanics, attempting to illicit a further explanation of the legitimacy of the original kick. Instead, the admin Bolo_the_bear banned me because his pride felt hurt.

This incident was absolutely nothing more than a random admin I've never seen before not liking players allowing other players fair chances at fights. When questioned about kicking me because of it and after I illustrated his reasoning for kicking me as childish and uncalled for, he used his admin rights for personal gain, to force players to play how he saw fit, and to win what he saw as an "argument" by permenantly banning a long-standing well mannered, well-respected and well-known player for no other reason than not killing the target the admin wanted me to kill.

This is flagrant abuse of power for personal gain, and I hope this is not the sort of admin TW hopes to hold in these esteemed positions. This occurred at roughly 6:30-6:40 AM, CST.

I hope this is investigated, and I also hope to be reinstated to playing ability on US_S3, the battle server.
Destin, and nK_Littleguy were present at the time of my ban, and I'm sure they will fully vouch for the verity of my statements.

Once again, I apologize if this is the wrong forum, but I'm not sure where to post this issue.

ADD_Rhade
 
This is troubling news. I'll paste your complaint on the admin board.  I'll also ensure that the text logs are reviewed.
 
First thought:"Oh no, not another I-got-kicked-because-I-rule-and-everyone-else-is-stupid-thread."  :smile:

But after reading through this seemes rather a reasoned complaint. If this happened as you describe its surely not ok, tsk tsk tsk.
 
I've played with ADD_Rhade and he has never griefed, nor broken a rule at any point what so ever. We'll look into this Rhade. Sorry it happened to you and not the "dueling nazis".
 
Yeah, I would question anyone who would question Rhade's choice of targets :razz:

Seriously, Rhade has always been not only a very skilled player, but also a very courteous and respectful one.
 
Styo 说:
I've played with ADD_Rhade and he has never griefed, nor broken a rule at any point what so ever. We'll look into this Rhade. Sorry it happened to you and not the "dueling nazis".

ares007 说:
Yeah, I would question anyone who would question Rhade's choice of targets :razz:

Seriously, Rhade has always been not only a very skilled player, but also a very courteous and respectful one.

Ditto on both accounts! I had the pleasure of playing on the same server earlier this morning @ 5:00 EST and except for thinking I should be allowed a shotgun next time I duel with you; I thought you were a highly skilled and honorable player. I do hope that greater methods of curtailing this kind of abuse is soon available as the beta progresses.  :neutral:
 
Just thought I'd throw in my support as well - Rhade's a stand-up guy. Can't see him doing anything to deserve a ban.
 
I was indeed there at the time, in fact I was the opponent who he chose not to attack because I had backed myself against a wall to prevent him from charging into me with his horse while I fought his team mate. I was in fact arguing with the very same admin about the plain absurdness of the ban. I questioned him on his method of banning someone because they simply did not agree with him and he replied "That is not my way." When in fact he had just banned Rhade for doing exactly that. He also spoke of how they did things differently on EU servers, so I brought up that he was on a US server and we do things differently around here.

I believe his words were "Cut out this dueling bull**** or I'll ban you." So I replied "You may as well ban us all then and play by yourself." In which he said "You mean ban you all and go to an EU server?". I'm no expert, but that's pretty stupid. Rhade is a good guy, and was doing nothing wrong and everybody in the server besides said admin was having fun with the way we were playing. Rhade was doing nothing wrong, and not interfering with the testing session in any way. We had all agreed upon the dueling, and he did not deserve a ban for that.

 
Rhade is not the kind of player to be banned, no matter how annoying his throwing axes and stabby stabby with a hurscarl shield tactics are.
 
Rhade:

I am very sorry to hear about this incident. The server logs do show that things have happened exactly as you describe. Unfortunately, we couldn't identify the admin that has abused his powers in this case, but we'll add more information to the logs in the next version so that this type of thing won't happen again (and we'll catch it if it does). I have restarted the server so that you should be able to play there again. Thank you for reporting this.
 
Rhade was banned?  That makes no sense since he is one of the bsst and most honest players I have encountered in game.  Surely this is some kind of mistake on the part of the Admin.  What is wrong with dueling?  We all do it, especially on the US servers.  It is the best way to test weapons and armor and such.  Admins that ban people on a whim or who dislike anothers play style should not be admins.
 
Armagan 说:
Rhade:

I am very sorry to hear about this incident. The server logs do show that things have happened exactly as you describe. Unfortunately, we couldn't identify the admin that has abused his powers in this case, but we'll add more information to the logs in the next version so that this type of thing won't happen again (and we'll catch it if it does). I have restarted the server so that you should be able to play there again. Thank you for reporting this.

Let me just say again that you guys are awesome. It heartens me to know this kind of thing doesn't fall on deaf ears.
 
I'm sorry for the unnecessary trouble you've had to go through, Rhade. I believe Mahud's admin abuse will not go unpunished.
 
Armagan 说:
Rhade:

I am very sorry to hear about this incident. The server logs do show that things have happened exactly as you describe. Unfortunately, we couldn't identify the admin that has abused his powers in this case, but we'll add more information to the logs in the next version so that this type of thing won't happen again (and we'll catch it if it does). I have restarted the server so that you should be able to play there again. Thank you for reporting this.

Its me.

And he watched the fight, only later on he moved on...
Anway, the ban was wrong I aggree with that.
 
The incident is being discussed in the Admins forum, and I believe we can communicate with the relevant parties through PMs. Therefore, I am locking this thread now.
 
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