bandit army

[wilsonst]

Might want to tweek that bandit army size thing. I just ran across a group consisting of 3607 sailors and 1 leader.  really.......

 

[kalarhan]

support forum with threads for issues and feedback
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,376.0.html

latest patch has major changes on bandits, but you will need a new game to see it on day 1 (or wait many weeks to your savegame world to stabilize)

we need savegame, screenshots and logs to see what is happening on your computer. So if you see something off please provide them.

Thanks for the report.

 

[wilsonst]

not sure how to get screenshots up here, but here is my dropbox link, got the save game at same spot if needed.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ns8k8ptsppf9w64/mb1.jpg?dl=0

 

[kraggrim]

not sure how to get screenshots up here, but here is my dropbox link


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ns8k8ptsppf9w64/mb1.jpg?dl=0

Wow.  Ask to hire them, see how much they want  .

 

[JuJu70]

not sure how to get screenshots up here, but here is my dropbox link


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ns8k8ptsppf9w64/mb1.jpg?dl=0

Wow.  Ask to hire them, see how much they want  .

Better yet - fight them, you'll probably get like 200 renown for that

 

[wilsonst]

this bandit thing will probably upset the balance of the game. Im playing average and after the update I got a prompt saying that half the bandit groups will be stronger than me. When I get up to a 300 man army, then half the bandits will be at 400 men. There probably won't be any lords to fight since the bandits have probably devoured them. might want to change the name to Bandits Conquest.

 

[wilsonst]

By the way I did try to fight them. My guys and I killed about 250 of them. I was going thru sailors like butter until the rest of my guys died, then they all turn on me and started throwing rocks. way to many rocks.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3skxwp4ijdg31vi/mb4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/las79l4wnjqkzdh/mb8.jpg?dl=0

 

[kalarhan]

this bandit thing will probably upset the balance of the game. Im playing average and after the update I got a prompt saying that half the bandit groups will be stronger than me. When I get up to a 300 man army, then half the bandits will be at 400 men. There probably won't be any lords to fight since the bandits have probably devoured them. might want to change the name to Bandits Conquest.

stronger does not mean bigger (it is not the number of soldiers, but  the quality of troops that counts).

And there is a limit on how big they can be at start, so nope, they won't show up with 400 troops 

 

[WilsonMG]

Just prior to this latest patch I saw a Frankish Raiders sea party with 0 troops and like 80+ prisoners.  If I'd wanted any Fishermen in my army, I would have engaged them just to see what was up there.  Wish I had had Fraps up to screenshot it.

 

[kraggrim]

Most impressive one I've seen so far:

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I need to lure one of my lords into fighting this guy.

 

[Phalnax811]

support forum with threads for issues and feedback
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,376.0.html

latest patch has major changes on bandits, but you will need a new game to see it on day 1 (or wait many weeks to your savegame world to stabilize)

we need savegame, screenshots and logs to see what is happening on your computer. So if you see something off please provide them.

Thanks for the report.

Any ETA on when the next patch comes out?  I've looked a little bit but couldn't find when it does.

Thanks.


EDIT: I found this actually http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,334273.0.html ...and the changelog for a patch from yesterday but I never noticed anything download to update the DLC yesterday.

 

[wilsonst]

this bandit thing will probably upset the balance of the game. Im playing average and after the update I got a prompt saying that half the bandit groups will be stronger than me. When I get up to a 300 man army, then half the bandits will be at 400 men. There probably won't be any lords to fight since the bandits have probably devoured them. might want to change the name to Bandits Conquest.

stronger does not mean bigger (it is not the number of soldiers, but  the quality of troops that counts).

And there is a limit on how big they can be at start, so nope, they won't show up with 400 troops 

You know that 3600 man bandit army in my game is not going away anytime soon. nobody is going to beat them and they're just going to mow around they're part of the world like a big tornado. Obviously that limit is not working quite right.

 

[wilsonst]

By the way I did try to fight them. My guys and I killed about 250 of them. I was going thru sailors like butter until the rest of my guys died, then they all turn on me and started throwing rocks. way to many rocks.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3skxwp4ijdg31vi/mb4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/las79l4wnjqkzdh/mb8.jpg?dl=0

Exactly how does the ai work in a battle? I had 135 men up against 3600. Im set at 500 man limit in battles. I only got to start the battle with 70 while I guess they had the other 430. I had one reinforcement, while they didn't really need a reinforcement. I should of been able to at least start with my full contingency.

 

[Phalnax811]

By the way I did try to fight them. My guys and I killed about 250 of them. I was going thru sailors like butter until the rest of my guys died, then they all turn on me and started throwing rocks. way to many rocks.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3skxwp4ijdg31vi/mb4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/las79l4wnjqkzdh/mb8.jpg?dl=0

Exactly how does the ai work in a battle? I had 135 men up against 3600. Im set at 500 man limit in battles. I only got to start the battle with 70 while I guess they had the other 430. I had one reinforcement, while they didn't really need a reinforcement. I should of been able to at least start with my full contingency.

Is your Tactics skill low?

 

[wilsonst]

By the way I did try to fight them. My guys and I killed about 250 of them. I was going thru sailors like butter until the rest of my guys died, then they all turn on me and started throwing rocks. way to many rocks.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3skxwp4ijdg31vi/mb4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/las79l4wnjqkzdh/mb8.jpg?dl=0

Exactly how does the ai work in a battle? I had 135 men up against 3600. Im set at 500 man limit in battles. I only got to start the battle with 70 while I guess they had the other 430. I had one reinforcement, while they didn't really need a reinforcement. I should of been able to at least start with my full contingency.

Is your Tactics skill low?

ah....I'll check. what is considered low and high and how does that affect how many men you start a battle?

 

[kalarhan]

You know that 3600 man bandit army in my game is not going away anytime soon. nobody is going to beat them and they're just going to mow around they're part of the world like a big tornado. Obviously that limit is not working quite right.

@Wilsonst you need to re-read the messages ingame 

It says they are limited to 180 at spawn (when they are born). If they can keep winning fights and rescuing prisoners they will have a chance to grow in size (just like you do).
You can use cheats + (CTRL+ALT+F4) to kill them in a battle and then edit your renown/XP back down

Or create a new savegame  (or load one from 1.04)

 

[wilsonst]

You know that 3600 man bandit army in my game is not going away anytime soon. nobody is going to beat them and they're just going to mow around they're part of the world like a big tornado. Obviously that limit is not working quite right.

@Wilsonst you need to re-read the messages ingame 

It says they are limited to 180 at spawn (when they are born). If they can keep winning fights and rescuing prisoners they will have a chance to grow in size (just like you do).
You can use cheats + (CTRL+ALT+F4) to kill them in a battle and then edit your renown/XP back down

Or create a new savegame  (or load one from 1.04)

Yes I get that but this army didn't just grow. nobody just rescues 3607 sailors and no other troop type. Im just concerned that this starts snowballing out of control.

 

[kalarhan]

Yes I get that but this army didn't just grow. nobody just rescues 3607 sailors and no other troop type. Im just concerned that this starts snowballing out of control.

create a new game and test it out  , we did it and it is working well

 

[Phalnax811]

By the way I did try to fight them. My guys and I killed about 250 of them. I was going thru sailors like butter until the rest of my guys died, then they all turn on me and started throwing rocks. way to many rocks.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3skxwp4ijdg31vi/mb4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/las79l4wnjqkzdh/mb8.jpg?dl=0

Exactly how does the ai work in a battle? I had 135 men up against 3600. Im set at 500 man limit in battles. I only got to start the battle with 70 while I guess they had the other 430. I had one reinforcement, while they didn't really need a reinforcement. I should of been able to at least start with my full contingency.

Is your Tactics skill low?

ah....I'll check. what is considered low and high and how does that affect how many men you start a battle?

Don't exactly recall. Assuming it behaves similar to Tactics in Warband, might want to check the wiki on that.