Banat of Bosnia??

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hadza999

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Hey,
Why you not include Bosnia,
In this period Bosnia had ban (title)
But you must include Serbia but Bosnia not (Bosnia had the strongest nation of Balkan in 1377 (king Tvrtko I)..
In 1257 it is strong nation too.
 
Include Bosnia in game  :mad: :mad:.. Bosnia is exist in 1257 year... mod isn't historicaly accurate becuase Bosnia is exist and be one of strongest nations (ADD Bosnia in update)  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
Hey, look
I don't know what nationalistc I say  :?: :?:
Bosnia is exist in 1257.. why you don't include that.. please tell me  :???: :???:
 
hadza999 said:
Hey, look
I don't know what nationalistc I say  :?: :?:
Bosnia is exist in 1257.. why you don't include that.. please tell me  :???: :???:

This is the limit for older machines, if the doc and the dev team adds new nations(in exception of a few sttlements)
the game will become very heavy(unplayable).F.e i have a good system and i had a lot of
framedrops(how is it called?) in the map.
 
racist is wen u hate another race  bosnian people are caucasian.
but this dude who is asking for Bosnia is pretty aggressive he could have asked nicely.
and something offtopic  where can i get a signature for ad?
 
First, there are many other kingdoms much more important and autonomous than bosnia.

Second, during this time, Prijezda I was the ban of bosnia and he was a vassal of Bela IV of hungary.
 
DrTomas said:
scytale30ro said:
racist is wen u hate another race  bosnian people are caucasian.
What If I'm Asian?

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Well i want Georgia as another faction too...but DrTomas is who decides it  :roll:

http://totalwar.honga.net/faction.php?v=bc&f2=Georgia

The Kingdom of Georgia, A.D. 1174 Summer

Georgians are one of the most ancient peoples of the world, having its statehood from the time of Kingdom of Colchis (from XII-VIII BC). In the year 319 CE the Georgian state recognised Christianity as its official religion. Georgian Apostolic Ortodoxal Church, based by apostles Andrey and by Simeon of Cana, became autocephalous in V century. Besides Georgia, great Georgian religious centers were based in Jerusalem, in Greece, in Cyprus, in Sinai, in Egypt, in Syria and Palestine. The monastery of the Iberians, as it is called, is one of the oldest monasteries in Orthodoxy's monastery state, Agion Oros. It was founded by John Tornicius, a courtier of David, ruler of Georgia in the third quarter of the 10th century. The royal dynasty of the Bagrationis, is central to the history of Georgia. First noted in 888 when designated “Kouropalates” (sovereign) by an Emperor of Byzantium, Bagrations became renowned when in 1001 Georgian king Bagrat III Bagrationi united all Georgian principalities - principality of Kakheti, Abkhazian reign, principality Tao-Klardzheti and principality of Kartli into the united reign and a new dominant power was formed in the Caucasus, the strong, centralized feudal state - Kingdom of Georgia (Sakartvelos Samepho). He was recognised as a “King of Kings” in Georgia and gave his name to a dynasty which was destined to rule for centuries. Bagrat’s reign, a period of uttermost importance in the history of Georgia, brought about the final victory of the Georgian Bagratids in the centuries-long power struggles. Anxious to create more stable and centralized monarchy, Bagrat eliminated or at least diminished the autonomy of the dynastic princes. His son and grandson stabilised the Bagrationi rule after fighting Byzantium and its other neighbours. However, a new contender had arrived. Alp Arslan and his Turks devastated its lands in 1064 and 1068, prompting Byzantines and Georgians to stop a centuries long bitter fighting and join against a common foe. George II, 4th Bagrationi, ruled until 1112 but was unable to deal effectively with the constant the Seljuk Turkish attacks and overwhelmed by internal problems in his kingdom, George was forced to abdicate in favor of his energetic son, David IV, to whom he remained a nominal co-ruler until his death in 1112. He also held the high Byzantine titles of Kouropalates (c. 1060) and Kaesaros (c. 1081).David IV, 5th Bagrationi ruler, however had no Byzantine title. His only title would be “The Builder” and his claim to fame is to be considered the Greatest Georgian King. He succeeded in driving the Seljuk Turks out of the country winning the major Battle of Didgori in 1121. His reforms of the army and administration enabled him to reunite the country and bring most Caucasian lands under Georgia’s control. A stroke of genious was how he reformed his military. He resettled a Kipchak tribe of 40,000 families from the Northern Caucasus in Georgia in 1118–1120. Every family was obliged to provide one soldier with a horse and weapons. This 40,000 strong Kipchak-army was entirely dependent on the King. Kipchaks were settled in different regions of Georgia. Some were settled in Inner Kartli province, others were given lands along the border. They were quickly assimilated into Georgians.His son, Demetre the First wasn’t as successful. During his plot ridden reign, however, Georgia was a strong feudal power with well-organized military and political system and developed cultural and economical life. The grandson of David the builder, 7th Bagrationi ruler Giorgi the III was his true successor. He changed his father's defensive policy into more aggressive one and resumed offensive against the neighboring Seljuk rulers in Armenia. With his ascent to the throne, Giorgi III launched a successful campaign against the Seljuk sultanate of Khlat (the Shah-Armen State) in 1156. Giorgi took and annexed the Armenian cities of Ani and Dvin in 1161-1162. However, the Seljuk counterattacks made the King to cede Ani to a Muslim ruler on the terms of vassalage. The city was finally incorporated into the Georgian Kingdom in 1173. Throughout this period, the Georgian army was swelling with Armenian volunteers, enthusiastically participating in the liberation of their country. In 1167, he marched to defend his vassal Shah Aghsartan of Shirvan against the Khazar and Kipchak assaults and strengthened the Georgian dominance in the area.This is an exciting time for Georgia. Coffers are swelling with money from newly conquered provinces, the Army is strong, your kingdom is considered one of the most cultured and chivalrous in all of Christendom. Your subjects adore you. All of the Orthodox look up to you as your empire rises, whereas Byzantium is falling. Now it is time King of kings, to move forward, further than ever before. In this golden era Georgia is living, go forth, expand and conquer!
 
Leonidas300 said:
Well i want Georgia as another faction too...but DrTomas is who decides it  :roll:

http://totalwar.honga.net/faction.php?v=bc&f2=Georgia

The Kingdom of Georgia, A.D. 1174 Summer

Georgians are one of the most ancient peoples of the world, having its statehood from the time of Kingdom of Colchis (from XII-VIII BC). In the year 319 CE the Georgian state recognised Christianity as its official religion. Georgian Apostolic Ortodoxal Church, based by apostles Andrey and by Simeon of Cana, became autocephalous in V century. Besides Georgia, great Georgian religious centers were based in Jerusalem, in Greece, in Cyprus, in Sinai, in Egypt, in Syria and Palestine. The monastery of the Iberians, as it is called, is one of the oldest monasteries in Orthodoxy's monastery state, Agion Oros. It was founded by John Tornicius, a courtier of David, ruler of Georgia in the third quarter of the 10th century. The royal dynasty of the Bagrationis, is central to the history of Georgia. First noted in 888 when designated “Kouropalates” (sovereign) by an Emperor of Byzantium, Bagrations became renowned when in 1001 Georgian king Bagrat III Bagrationi united all Georgian principalities - principality of Kakheti, Abkhazian reign, principality Tao-Klardzheti and principality of Kartli into the united reign and a new dominant power was formed in the Caucasus, the strong, centralized feudal state - Kingdom of Georgia (Sakartvelos Samepho). He was recognised as a “King of Kings” in Georgia and gave his name to a dynasty which was destined to rule for centuries. Bagrat’s reign, a period of uttermost importance in the history of Georgia, brought about the final victory of the Georgian Bagratids in the centuries-long power struggles. Anxious to create more stable and centralized monarchy, Bagrat eliminated or at least diminished the autonomy of the dynastic princes. His son and grandson stabilised the Bagrationi rule after fighting Byzantium and its other neighbours. However, a new contender had arrived. Alp Arslan and his Turks devastated its lands in 1064 and 1068, prompting Byzantines and Georgians to stop a centuries long bitter fighting and join against a common foe. George II, 4th Bagrationi, ruled until 1112 but was unable to deal effectively with the constant the Seljuk Turkish attacks and overwhelmed by internal problems in his kingdom, George was forced to abdicate in favor of his energetic son, David IV, to whom he remained a nominal co-ruler until his death in 1112. He also held the high Byzantine titles of Kouropalates (c. 1060) and Kaesaros (c. 1081).David IV, 5th Bagrationi ruler, however had no Byzantine title. His only title would be “The Builder” and his claim to fame is to be considered the Greatest Georgian King. He succeeded in driving the Seljuk Turks out of the country winning the major Battle of Didgori in 1121. His reforms of the army and administration enabled him to reunite the country and bring most Caucasian lands under Georgia’s control. A stroke of genious was how he reformed his military. He resettled a Kipchak tribe of 40,000 families from the Northern Caucasus in Georgia in 1118–1120. Every family was obliged to provide one soldier with a horse and weapons. This 40,000 strong Kipchak-army was entirely dependent on the King. Kipchaks were settled in different regions of Georgia. Some were settled in Inner Kartli province, others were given lands along the border. They were quickly assimilated into Georgians.His son, Demetre the First wasn’t as successful. During his plot ridden reign, however, Georgia was a strong feudal power with well-organized military and political system and developed cultural and economical life. The grandson of David the builder, 7th Bagrationi ruler Giorgi the III was his true successor. He changed his father's defensive policy into more aggressive one and resumed offensive against the neighboring Seljuk rulers in Armenia. With his ascent to the throne, Giorgi III launched a successful campaign against the Seljuk sultanate of Khlat (the Shah-Armen State) in 1156. Giorgi took and annexed the Armenian cities of Ani and Dvin in 1161-1162. However, the Seljuk counterattacks made the King to cede Ani to a Muslim ruler on the terms of vassalage. The city was finally incorporated into the Georgian Kingdom in 1173. Throughout this period, the Georgian army was swelling with Armenian volunteers, enthusiastically participating in the liberation of their country. In 1167, he marched to defend his vassal Shah Aghsartan of Shirvan against the Khazar and Kipchak assaults and strengthened the Georgian dominance in the area.This is an exciting time for Georgia. Coffers are swelling with money from newly conquered provinces, the Army is strong, your kingdom is considered one of the most cultured and chivalrous in all of Christendom. Your subjects adore you. All of the Orthodox look up to you as your empire rises, whereas Byzantium is falling. Now it is time King of kings, to move forward, further than ever before. In this golden era Georgia is living, go forth, expand and conquer!
Georgia was a state of Mongols in 1257 ..
 
hadza999 said:
Hey,
Why you not include Bosnia,
In this period Bosnia had ban (title)
But you must include Serbia but Bosnia not (Bosnia had the strongest nation of Balkan in 1330.)
In 1257 it is strong nation too.

Do not worry my friend, Bosnia was just one of the many Serbian principalities, so you can always play with Kraljevstvo Srbsko. :wink:
 
No man
Bosnia isn't be "one of the many Serbian principalities"
In that period is be ban Prijezda as say ntb_15 and Bosnia is be vazzal of Hungary King Bela
and after 110 years.. Tvrto I come and first be ban and than in 1377 king of Bosnia, Serbia, Pomerania (Pomorju), Hum land, West side, Usora and Drina valley (Podrinje)..
please than don't lie.. OK :smile:
 
hadza999 said:
No man
Bosnia isn't be "one of the many Serbian principalities"
In that period is be ban Prijezda as say ntb_15 and Bosnia is be vazzal of Hungary King Bela
and after 110 years.. Tvrto I come and first be ban and than in 1377 king of Bosnia, Serbia, Pomerania (Pomorju), Hum land, West side, Usora and Drina valley (Podrinje)..
please than don't lie.. OK :smile:

Ok then,serve the serbian faction,rebel later on and create your own kingdom,name it Bosnia
Problem solved.
 
hadza999 said:
No man
Bosnia isn't be "one of the many Serbian principalities"
In that period is be ban Prijezda as say ntb_15 and Bosnia is be vazzal of Hungary King Bela
and after 110 years.. Tvrto I come and first be ban and than in 1377 king of Bosnia, Serbia, Pomerania (Pomorju), Hum land, West side, Usora and Drina valley (Podrinje)..
please than don't lie.. OK :smile:

Sure, he converted to Catholicism and became his vassal, but Bosnia wasn't independent at the time, so that's why Bosnia is not in the mod. But Tvrtko wasn't crowned as ruler of Serbia, Bosnia and Seaside, but as King of Serbs, Bosnia etc. Meaning, Bosnia is just a regional term, not representing a nation. And Tvrtko was a Serb and very proud of his Serbian roots. But Bosnia indeed was one of the Serbian principalities, sometimes independent, sometimes under foreign rule, just like other medieval Serbian states Duklja, Raska, Paganija, Zahumlje, Travunija. These were all small principalities inhabited by Serbs and ruled by Serbian rulers. I'm not lying, read some books. :wink:
 
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