Auto-block in singleplayer

[Harathan]

Thanks for not reading my comment and taking it personally. Don't bash the game because it is too difficult for you. You shouldn't give games negative reviews based on difficulty, as it is too subjective a metric to objectively critique a game on. This is why people think you guys are toxic.

Nobody is bashing the game you lunatic. We're asking for an option to be added. Just like when people asked for the option of manual blocking. Why do you care so much how other people play a single player game that you need to come on here and act like you're better than everyone who's asking for the option? Do you really need to stroke your ego so badly?

 

[JSapXIII]

If only this had been the response when people were asking for manual block originally, when auto block was the only option.

You seem to think I have an agenda against autoblock. I do not. I have used autoblock in WB and NW. If people gave negative reviews because the game was "too easy" I would be calling them out as well. The point stands. Don't bash a game based on your subjective difficulty level.

 

[Superbanikovec]

I'm really disappointed by reactions of community on this topic. On the one hand we have a group of people judging people by the way they want to play the game. Don't you have better things to do than acting superior over such a silly thing and commenting on things that are completely irrelevant to you? On the other one we have people crying they want to refund the game because of lack of auto-block... Patience and give developers some time. We all knew this was EA when we bought the game. Autoblock will be re-introduced, it just takes time. Developers have about million things to fix right now.

 

[WMS]

Thanks for not reading my comment and taking it personally. Don't bash the game because it is too difficult for you. You shouldn't give games negative reviews based on difficulty, as it is too subjective a metric to objectively critique a game on. This is why people think you guys are toxic.

Bro.. this the TaleWorlds forums, we’re not writing reviews here, we’re discussing game improvements.

 

[Harathan]

You seem to think I have an agenda against autoblock. I do not. I have used autoblock in WB and NW. If people gave negative reviews because the game was "too easy" I would be calling them out as well. The point stands. Don't bash a game based on your subjective difficulty level.

Again, nobody is bashing the game and even if they were, why would you be taking that so personally? And yes, you do have an agenda against autoblock, that's abundantly clear, otherwise you wouldn't be investing this much time in arguing against it.

 

[JSapXIII]

Nobody is bashing the game you lunatic.

This is pure toxicity. I hope auto-block isn't added so you leave. I'd cite the numerous people giving this game a negative review based solely on difficulty, but I don't want to feed the troll. Sorry for all the disabled people who truly need a whole host of accommodations to make the game enjoyable, but you unfortunately your cause has been championed by truly toxic and hateful people.

 

[JSapXIII]

Bro.. this the TaleWorlds forums, we’re not writing reviews here, we’re discussing game improvements.

I know that, that's why I'm so taken aback by why people are getting so upset. If you're not bashing the game my comments were not for you.

If you have legitimate gripes about the game feel free to bash the game about that, but don't solely bash the game because it's too hard for you (that is what refunds are for).

 

[Harathan]

Mount and Blade 'pros': Can we have manual block?
Mount and Blade casuals: No objections here.

Bannerlord casuals: Can we have auto block, the default blocking option for every other M&B game?
Bannerlord 'pros': Git gud noob

That's what's happening right now. If you're not embarrassed to be in the "git gud" camp, there's something seriously wrong with you.

This is pure toxicity. I hope auto-block isn't added so you leave.

Now you've just revealed your true colors as an outright troll. Took you long enough.

Only folks in this thread being toxic and hateful are you and your cohorts who think they have the right to dictate how other people play a single player game.

Asking for an option for autoblocking to be added is not something we have to justify to you. Back under your bridge.

 

[JellyCreeper]

Are you kidding? There were two threads running on this topic on Steam and they both got locked last night because they were literally chock full of elitist douche-canoe's screaming "GIT GUD!" or "USE SHIELD!". What mythical polite version of the Steam forums are you looking at?


Last I checked you can't use a 2H weapon with shields. Are you really incapable of understanding that not everyone wants to be forced to play a certain way?

Nobody is being "forced". It's not like there aren't good 1h weapons. Wanna use a 2h weapon with a shield while we are at it? What about having every 1h weapon being able to be used 2 handed for extra damage? This discussion is pointless, you sacrifice offence for defence, it has nothing to do with reflexes, combat in Bannerlord is mostly feinting and finding and opening to strike, which is way more engaging than warband exploitable AI. It's both fun and challenging without being unfair in any way.

I am capable of understanding that people feel entitled to everything though, as some made clear. I played with auto-block on in warband singleplayer usually, and I wouldn't mind if the feature was back. I'm just arguing that people the people saying that the "GIT GUD" people are trolls and calling them all sorts of names are just as bad. Take a step back and watch the chaos.

Again, nobody is being forced to anything. Bannerlord combat is different than Warband, better get used to it. I'm glad that my purchase wasn't just a re-skin but an actual different experience of the same genre.10/10 TaleWorlds, now just fix the damn bugs. XD

I would like auto-block back, but just keep the trolls from either side in a cage somewhere.

 

[JSapXIII]

Mount and Blade 'pros': Can we have manual block?
Mount and Blade casuals: No objections here.

Bannerlord casuals: Can we have auto block, the default blocking option for every other M&B game?
Bannerlord 'pros': Git gud noob

That's what's happening right now. If you're not embarrassed to be in the "git gud" camp, there's something seriously wrong with you.



Now you've just revealed your true colors as an outright troll. Took you long enough.

Only folks in this thread being toxic and hateful are you and your cohorts who think they have the right to dictate how other people play a single player game.

I wish you all get your auto-blocking, eventually...

You're only resorting to ad hominem attacks. If you truly want Auto-block, you should stop posting. All you're doing is driving people away who would support you. I use autoblock in Warband and Napoleonic Wars. I should have stopped replying as soon as you resorted to ad hominem. My fault for feeding the troll. I'm done. Hopefully this isn't indicative of the new community.

Edit - Grammar

 

[Harathan]

Hopefully this isn't indicative of the new community.

Funny, that's exactly what I was thinking about you and the rest of the folks telling those of us asking for a simple option in a video game to git gud.

I am capable of understanding

Apparently not, because you imagine this discussion to be about entitlement and not about basic game functionality which is being asked for, for multiple reasons ranging from "fun" to "physical disability", which is actually the case.

 

[JellyCreeper]

Funny, that's exactly what I was thinking about you and the rest of the folks telling those of us asking for a simple option in a video game to git gud.



Apparently not, because you imagine this discussion to be about entitlement and not about basic game functionality which is being asked for, for multiple reasons ranging from "fun" to "physical disability", which is actually the case.

You do realise that having auto-block on doesn't change anything from using a shield? You will still get hit from feints and misdirection, which auto-block would even be worse than a shield against. Whether it is a much needed feature for enjoyment is discuss-able at best, and a really poor observation at worst. People with disabilities can enjoy the game as combat is not the core feature of the game. It is one of the many features and so what if you are not great at it? Literally no one cares whether others "Git Gud" or not and most here are just expressing what a non-issue this whole topic is.

You guys defending auto-block are being worse than any "Git Gud" troll so far, specially you Harathan, you are the one putting your hateful interpretations of what most here are saying. They are mostly keeping civil. I saw maybe 2 or 3 "Git Gud" trolls in this whole thread.
Edit: And being vile as well, by harassing instead of just presenting your argument.

 

[yeahchris]

You do realise that having auto-block on doesn't change anything from using a shield? You will still get hit from feints and misdirection, which auto-block would even be worse than a shield against. Whether it is a much needed feature for enjoyment is discuss-able at best, and a really poor observation at worst. People with disabilities can enjoy the game as combat is not the core feature of the game. It is one of the many features and so what if you are not great at it? Literally no one cares whether others "Git Gud" or not and most here are just expressing what a non-issue this whole topic is.

You guys defending auto-block are being worse than any "Git Gud" troll so far, specially you Harathan, you are the one putting your hateful interpretations of what most here are saying. They are mostly keeping civil. I saw maybe 2 or 3 "Git Gud" trolls in this whole thread.
Edit: And being vile as well, by harassing instead of just presenting your argument.

Oh, please. If this missing feature were a non issue there wouldn't be a half dozen threads about it here, another half dozen on Steam, reddit, etc, with literally thousands of comments -- most of which are expressing confusion as to why the option is gone.

The fact that auto block doesn't make you immortal... is kinda the entire point. There is still a large strategic/skill component to the game's combat with auto block enabled. You still have to time your blocks properly.

Also... combat is not a core feature? What the actual eff are you talking about?

Get real.

 

[JellyCreeper]

Oh, please. If this missing feature were a non issue there wouldn't be a half dozen threads about it here, another half dozen on Steam, reddit, etc, with literally thousands of comments -- most of which are expressing confusion as to why the option is gone.

The fact that auto block doesn't make you immortal... is kinda the entire point. There is still a large strategic/skill component to the game's combat with auto block enabled. You still have to time your blocks properly.

Also... combat is not a core feature? What the actual eff are you talking about?

Get real.

Yes, combat is not a core feature. At it's core, Bannerlord is a strategy game with a third person/first person commander. The fact that you can avoid combat entirely and still win and enjoy the game is genius design.

I am speaking of course of combat in terms of you vs AI. You probably still need to train and field an army to win. Auto-block can be rendered useless just by using troops to fight for you.

People spread fire where there is smoke, rather than find the fire from the smoke. There are other issues with combat, auto-block ain't it chief.

 

[yeahchris]

Yes, combat is not a core feature. At it's core, Bannerlord is a strategy game with a third person/first person commander. The fact that you can avoid combat entirely and still win and enjoy the game is genius design.

I am speaking of course of combat in terms of you vs AI. You probably still need to train and field an army to win. Auto-block can be rendered useless just by using troops to fight for you.

People spread fire where there is smoke, rather than find the fire from the smoke. There are other issues with combat, auto-block ain't it chief.

I don't think any serious conversation can be had with you if you're going to insist that combat is not one of the game's core features. That is a wildly absurd assertion. Yes... it is possible to bypass it. And by bypassing it you also bypass the majority of the gameplay.

 

[JellyCreeper]

I don't think any serious conversation can be had with you if you're going to insist that combat is not one of the game's core features. That is a wildly absurd assertion. Yes... it is possible to bypass it. And by bypassing it you also bypass the majority of the gameplay.

Whatever makes you happy senpai ?

 

[zedestroyer]

I think that the issue is easy, those who want the autblock feature back just go to steam and give our feedback in a form of a negative review with the issues (if this isn't the only one) and wait a couple of weeks before deciding on refunding the game. This way we can avoid and stop feeding the entitled git gud trools and tryhards.

 

[the_bread_pill]

Made an account after reading this entire thread to point out that everyone making the "git gud kid" argument doesn't give a **** about disabled people, and that y'all should be embarrassed. Try some empathy on for size.

I have a disability called osteogenesis imperfecta, and while it doesn't affect my ability to play this game, I have lots of friends that DO have disabilities that affect their ability to play games like this, and a few of them play Warband and refunded Bannerlord because it was literally unplayable for them without autoblock. People with disabilities are the largest minority group in the US, making up 26% of the population, 14% have mobility issues. Having accessibility options is always good, and will bring more people into the game. Stop thinking of auto-block as an "EZ babby mode", and start thinking about it as an accessibility setting. None of y'all would be saying this **** if this thread was about asking for a colorblind mode instead. You should support features that will get more people to buy and enjoy the game, not throw a fit about it or get mad at people who aren't having fun for...not having fun? Enjoying things differently than you do? Being unable to play the game because of physical limitations? Honestly there's really no defense unless people were asking for it to be added in multiplayer, which literally nobody is doing.

I always played Warband with autoblock since I started playing the game like 9 or 10 years ago. Not because I was bad, but because it was simply more fun for me to play with it on. Warband was always a power fantasy game for me, which is why I never got into MP. I don't care about having 1337 SKILLZ, I don't care about becoming a master swordsman in a single player game. If that was the kind of experience I was looking for, I'd just boot up Mordhau and play on a duel server instead. M&B has never been about being a top-tier elite Gamer. Taleworlds should add autoblock, if only because they're missing out on sales from lots of disabled people that would like to play the game but can't due to mobility issues.

 

[Smock]

Well I've spent 3 hours trying to get used to manual blocking and I just can't do it.

When they pull their weapon back, i just cannot react fast enough to analyse which direction they are attacking in and then tell my hands to carry out the correct move to block in the correct direction. Right now I seem to just chance it about 1 in 5 times, which is just useless. I'm even playing this on the Very Easy settings. I dread to think how hard it would be on normal.

I've even tried duels with bandits using sword and shield and still failed miserably (again on the easiest setting - full health and shield hp) I blocked most of their attacks and managed to hit them back, but they broke my shield before I could kill them and then I was basically defenseless.

Not being able to block effectively means I can't do these duels, tournaments or fight on foot with anything but sword+shield/bow

I'm not going to devote all of my playing time to keep failing to learn a mechanic, I want to get on with the rest of the game, so I'm going to carry on with the rest of the game now , giving up on possibly 20% of the gameplay options and just hope it doesn't spoil the fun of the rest of the game (I've sunk 800+ hours into M&B and Warband (SP) and enjoyed both previous titles immensely) and pray that they implement the feature from the previous two titles.

 

[Adrivan]

You can't expect to build some reflexes in 3 hours though, keep at it! @Smock