Athletics going down

[WizardBlack]

OK, so this isn't going to be another 'why is my weapon skill down when I am fighting thread', first of all. I understand the mechanics of the weapon proficiencies and encumbrance, etc. Here is my problem. I am playing with the Old Knight and I have 12 Agility and 3 Athletics. So far, so good. I am not really paying attention when I level up and I improve my Athletics to 4 (IIRC, may have been 5). It allows me to do so and moves on. Great! Not long after, I get a message saying 'This character cannot improve Athletics skill' or something of that nature. It's in gold text, just like the warning when you hit level 7, that you can die, etc.
As I keep playing and improving other skills, I continue to get the error every so often. I keep watching my Athletics skill and before long, it's down to 1, then zero! What's the deal? Is this a bug or another mechanic I am not aware of? I even stripped myself of clothing and went into combat. I know the encumbrance and weapon skill system is working perfect. However, I cannot really tell if I am still at level 3 athletics, 4 or zero. I go through several 'resetting weapon proficiencies' cycles just to be sure and it's still the same. Now my character is borked with no athletics, wasted skillups, etc.

 

[imgoodish]

Isn't the Old Knight the character that cannot increase athletics? Its states that when you first pick which character you are.

 

[SandmanX2]

Isn't the Old Knight the character that cannot increase athletics? Its states that when you first pick which character you are.

Yup also in Character info: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,62296.msg1614474/topicseen.html#msg1614474

Starting Character classes cannot learn a particular skill:
  Steppe Prince cannot learn Ironflesh
  Traveling Merchant cannot learn Weapon Master
  Skilled Hunter cannot learn Horse Archery
  Old Knight cannot learn Athletics
  Wandering Barbarian cannot learn Shield

 

[RndmNumGenerator]

Isn't the Old Knight the character that cannot increase athletics? Its states that when you first pick which character you are.

Yup also in Character info: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,62296.msg1614474/topicseen.html#msg1614474

Starting Character classes cannot learn a particular skill:
  Steppe Prince cannot learn Ironflesh
  Traveling Merchant cannot learn Weapon Master
  Skilled Hunter cannot learn Horse Archery
  Old Knight cannot learn Athletics
  Wandering Barbarian cannot learn Shield

Not quite up to date. Traveling Merchant can now learn Weapon Master. Instead, he can not learn Tracking or Spotting.

Since Chel can't stop you from increasing these skills, there is a script to decrease them if you put points into them.

 

[gregor_y]

Question regarding skill for example hunter has 11 power draw so it means its 11x8%=88% more damage? so theres point in increasing it to 12,13 and so on? ijust wana make sure that extra % is counted...

 

[Arthur84]

% is 14 per level, max level is 12, and yes it does keep increasing, up to bow req level + 4 levels will be counted.  So if you have 12 skill, and use bow with power draw 4, you will only use 8 skill level when using that bow, where as a level 8 requirement bow will result in level 12 of your power draw skill to be used.

 

[Servitor]

% is 14 per level, max level is 12, and yes it does keep increasing, up to bow req level + 4 levels will be counted.  So if you have 12 skill, and use bow with power draw 4, you will only use 8 skill level when using that bow, where as a level 8 requirement bow will result in level 12 of your power draw skill to be used.

Heh, -__-  I don't get it.

Since Chel can't stop you from increasing these skills, there is a script to decrease them if you put points into them.

Yup. You can either remove a skill entirely, or have a script checking the skill levels of your character, and if your Old Knight has more than 0 athletics, it will do a decrease. :> But you said that so I'm not adding much ...

 

[FrisianDude]

Yup also in Character info: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,62296.msg1614474/topicseen.html#msg1614474

Starting Character classes cannot learn a particular skill:
  Steppe Prince cannot learn Ironflesh
  Traveling Merchant cannot learn Weapon Master
  Skilled Hunter cannot learn Horse Archery
  Old Knight cannot learn Athletics
  Wandering Barbarian cannot learn Shield

.. that's somewhat of a bummer. Oh well, I'll live.

 

[Servitor]

What did you do? 

 

[Kinsume]

Yeah I remember seeing edited skills before, they did the same general thing but you could edit the names of the skills that players don't benefit from raising any.