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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if these 'realist' fanatics also believed in flat earth nonsense in an unironic way, the internet is a big place after all.
But you can carry 4 spears glued on your back, you can still use a shield even if it has 25 arrows and 16 javelins stuck in it, you can shoot a bow with mail mittens, you're able to draw a sword from you back, couch lance through unlimited amount of enemies without damaging your lance. All these things are way more unrealistic than hitting an arrow with your sword so, as i already said in another post, the realism point is nonsensical. The realism paladins should really get some informations on reality and be consistent on their requests.there's a reason why bannerlord doesn't have unicorn mounts and magical healing potions
Agree on splinters, Bannerlord's armor can't do anything against themWhacked by a rod of wood thats coming over 100 mphs, or get speckled by a shower of splinters.
I've said it but never wanted to switch the topic into other aspects of the game so I've tried not to mention other "unrealistic" things that are part of M&B since forever.... One of the first points I've made was that it's unrealistic to demand a game to be realistic. All one can do is try to lean it more towards a simulation, but even then, it'd still contain lots of unrealistic parts.But you can carry 4 spears glued on your back, you can still use a shield even if it has 25 arrows and 16 javelins stuck in it, you can shoot a bow with mail mittens, you're able to draw a sword from you back, couch lance through unlimited amount of enemies without damaging your lance. All these things are way more unrealistic than hitting an arrow with your sword so, as i already said in another post, the realism point is nonsensical. The realism paladins should really get some informations on reality and be consistent on their requests.
Agree on splinters, Bannerlord's armor can't do anything against them
It is completely realistic. Search "arrow deflecting" in YouTube
Yes, it is hard irl, as it is in the game. But it is possible!Ah ****, here we go again! *meme
don't try to say this, there's a little Dunning-Kruger army here who'll throw rocks at you if you say it's realistic hahahaYes, it is hard irl, as it is in the game. But it is possible!
the perk isn't even working yet and this thread shows the strength of TTing some people are biased to do anyway, regardless of balancing. To me, if the perk sits on 275 skill points, it should be overpowered. If it sits under that, it should fail considerably, or, be very hard to pull off (like, skill based, similar timing to the Chamber Blocks, although I think even chamber blocks should be a tid bit easier)...The whole point here is not "realism"
It's gameplay mechanics and balancing and fun to play. It doesn't need to be "realistic" in every way. It need to work in-game and with the gameplay mechanics and keep all ways of playing at around the same usefulness.
Two handed is very strong in offensive but weak against projectiles compared to shields. Advantage <-> disadvantage.
But a high level perk that gives you a CHANCE of blocking a projectile with a big weapon is maybe not "realistic" but I'd say viable, depending on balancing. It shouldn't be overpowered though.
maybe something along the lines "you've learned to use your armor better,
so you grant a small arrow absortion damage."
there were tecnhiques and armor designed to deflect arrows in medieval ages depending on the
armor you wore. like f.e when wearing a frog (i believe?) helmet, you would lean your head back,
or lean forward with another type. there were also designs like f.e the gothic armor which
had "V" shaped in the torso armor which prevented the splinters from going to your neck, or
eyeslots.
i don't buy the theory that a skilled swordmaster could stop an arrow on flight. all the bow's
that i saw in the video were very light, low pound draw bows (biggest maybe 50? pounds). you can't see
an arrow, much less react, to a proper warbow of f.e 130 pounds.
Here is a warbow of 150 pounds, if you notice it it's like a tree. against a plate armour.
the splinters alone could kill you.
the video with the girl "samurai" throing an arrow in a
"swormaster" is a joke. i'm not attacking the person or person, but she draws it like an
amateur, she doesn't even reach her eyer.
people who shot this kind of bow (in the vid etc.) were rare, and the period reflected in BL is at least 200 years earlier than that bow technology ever appeared. Think about it xD
Again, it's possible, but really risky and difficult, not everyone would be able to do it, but some would, and not very reliably. You underestimate what a trained person can or cannot do by guesswork and "I thinks"
yes, but you cannot know these things if you yourself don't try to do them. That's why most historians in the past would state complete fallacies when dealing with military subject... Only those trained today have some idea, to have the complete picture one would've had to train like they did and test things. No wonder why that Lars Andersen guy managed to basically reveal that most of what was believed to be "historical archery" was bonkers, he proved multiple manuscripts stating things that historians considered flair or lies to be actually true... And that was only done once, by him. If we wanna test "arrow deflection" it can be tested, but it would take someone with practical training on it, and that alone could take some years.maybe it was rare to draw a 200 pound bow, but in this example he draws a 160 lb bow.
the average from my knowledge of medieval history is about 130 give ir take, which are
massive bows. now, we don't have examples of the draw weight of certain cultures,
as they couldn't measure them, and none survived. history is written by pieces, that in parallel
with drawings, little pieces of artifact, some script, may indicate what was plausible and what not.
the "i thinks" are very important in history, it helps you understand what happened in the past
depending on evidence. if new evidence come to light then history rewrites in order to fit them.
we know that even in 300 bc, the draw weight of some bows were a ble to penetrate riveted male,
the same armor knights wore in 1300. there are TONS of historical references of bows and their
effectiveness, but we DON'T have actual bows of any era until medieval ages*. timber does not
last enough time. so there is no evidence to say how powerfull bows were, but we can know
that there were bows of at least 100 lbs power draw in antiquity.
they guy that shoots in the vid, would be what archers on any army would do, train.
*and that was pure luck
i don't buy the theory that a skilled swordmaster could stop an arrow on flight. all the bow's
that i saw in the video were very light, low pound draw bows (biggest maybe 50? pounds). you can't see
an arrow, much less react, to a proper warbow of f.e 130 pounds.