Swadius said:Fenix_120 said:Kobrag said:Yar, hangs really uncomfortably off the shoulders.
I read that wearing a belt over mail would help evenly distribute the weight, as for the OP a modern soldier carries more weight on him into battle than a medieval one did.
How about belts that tightly criss-cross your chest, would that work too? Or maybe the abdomen.
Armour gets lighter and lighter, it seems. It's not long ago that the saying was, "plate armour rarely exceeded 60 lbs". Checking around, I find historical examples of full plate averaging in the excess of 60 lbs, with certain armours weighing considerably more. I especially seem to recall a Milanese suit weighing in at around 80 lbs.Fenix_120 said:Plate armor rarely exceeded 50 lbs(22 KG's), and most mail was about thirty lbs but the great helm was ten.
Kissaki said:Armour gets lighter and lighter, it seems. It's not long ago that the saying was, "plate armour rarely exceeded 60 lbs". Checking around, I find historical examples of full plate averaging in the excess of 60 lbs, with certain armours weighing considerably more. I especially seem to recall a Milanese suit weighing in at around 80 lbs.Fenix_120 said:Plate armor rarely exceeded 50 lbs(22 KG's), and most mail was about thirty lbs but the great helm was ten.
Kissaki said:Armour gets lighter and lighter, it seems. It's not long ago that the saying was, "plate armour rarely exceeded 60 lbs". Checking around, I find historical examples of full plate averaging in the excess of 60 lbs, with certain armours weighing considerably more. I especially seem to recall a Milanese suit weighing in at around 80 lbs.
LordOfShadows said:Kissaki said:Armour gets lighter and lighter, it seems. It's not long ago that the saying was, "plate armour rarely exceeded 60 lbs". Checking around, I find historical examples of full plate averaging in the excess of 60 lbs, with certain armours weighing considerably more. I especially seem to recall a Milanese suit weighing in at around 80 lbs.Fenix_120 said:Plate armor rarely exceeded 50 lbs(22 KG's), and most mail was about thirty lbs but the great helm was ten.
The thing is, we're not just dealing with absolute weight, but perceived weight. While some suits of plate do indeed weigh more, due to the way they are worn the perceived weight is markedly less. (Source: bunch of guys who I know who wear a few different styles.)
Kissaki said:Armour gets lighter and lighter, it seems. It's not long ago that the saying was, "plate armour rarely exceeded 60 lbs". Checking around, I find historical examples of full plate averaging in the excess of 60 lbs, with certain armours weighing considerably more. I especially seem to recall a Milanese suit weighing in at around 80 lbs.Fenix_120 said:Plate armor rarely exceeded 50 lbs(22 KG's), and most mail was about thirty lbs but the great helm was ten.
That's what a belt is for. The thing that goes around your waist, you know.Skot the Sanguine said:I think you mean in the context that plate armor has its weight spread out more evenly across the body instead of at certain points like maille. For example a maille hauberk's weight sits squarely on the shoulders while a plate cuirass can have its weight distributed at other points with the assistance of straps and the inherent quality of plate.
Kobrag said:I actually found a person able to replicate and tailor a Parlimentarian cavalry plate armour (nicknamed, Ironside) for me.
Since it seems to be a transition between earlier full suit heavy plate and the later Cuirasseur armour styles, I expect it will be rather light and thin right?
OgrE_LusT said:I personaly don't like medieval knghits helmts,they look so primitive,(look like gauls or dacian helmts)
I prefer greek ones! way more beautiful,and also way more intimidating,well greeks scared the hell out of the persians when using them.
Also the Vikings ad (intimidating) helmets,but in a ugly way (i hate Viking helmet,they look like 4 eyes modern geeks lol)
Also i love Conquistadores helmets,and macedonian phanlangites too.
Don't get me wrong medieval helmets where beutiful too,cause they where made of steel and they are shiny.
But just imagine a greek hoplite helmet made whit technolagy,btw i also hate roman helmets.
Llew said:That's what a belt is for. The thing that goes around your waist, you know.Skot the Sanguine said:I think you mean in the context that plate armor has its weight spread out more evenly across the body instead of at certain points like maille. For example a maille hauberk's weight sits squarely on the shoulders while a plate cuirass can have its weight distributed at other points with the assistance of straps and the inherent quality of plate.
Skot the Sanguine said:Llew said:That's what a belt is for. The thing that goes around your waist, you know.Skot the Sanguine said:I think you mean in the context that plate armor has its weight spread out more evenly across the body instead of at certain points like maille. For example a maille hauberk's weight sits squarely on the shoulders while a plate cuirass can have its weight distributed at other points with the assistance of straps and the inherent quality of plate.
Late reply as I didn't realize there was a comment before, but I haven't found a belt helps at all with my haubergon...only seems to make it harder for me to breathe and bend over. It has to be pulled pretty tight in order for it to overcome the give in the gambeson underneath if you want it to bite into the maille and hold it up. Honestly, I find the weight of the maille on my shoulders tolerable...the only belt I use is the one attaching my scabbard to me.
I was sure I had replied to this before.Fenix_120 said:Was this 80 lbs suit made for battle or tournaments?
I seem to recall some outlandish tourny armors that would be completely useless in a battle, in part due to the weight.
LordOfShadows said:Skot the Sanguine said:Llew said:That's what a belt is for. The thing that goes around your waist, you know.Skot the Sanguine said:I think you mean in the context that plate armor has its weight spread out more evenly across the body instead of at certain points like maille. For example a maille hauberk's weight sits squarely on the shoulders while a plate cuirass can have its weight distributed at other points with the assistance of straps and the inherent quality of plate.
Late reply as I didn't realize there was a comment before, but I haven't found a belt helps at all with my haubergon...only seems to make it harder for me to breathe and bend over. It has to be pulled pretty tight in order for it to overcome the give in the gambeson underneath if you want it to bite into the maille and hold it up. Honestly, I find the weight of the maille on my shoulders tolerable...the only belt I use is the one attaching my scabbard to me.
How thick is you gambeson? Where do you have the belt sitting?