But it is."Uh but Lyceria, that is whataboutism blablabla"
I believe this fits perfectly to this thread tho.But it is.
How about you make a thread about whatever happened at Karabag and discuss it on its own terms, rather than trying to diminish the crimes of the Ottoman state and army (for some dumb nationalistic reason)?
This is either a fallacious or naive statement. Hate crimes may as well breed more hate crimes than lead to peace. Actually it may even be easier to become the aggressor in such a case. One book (a play's transcription) I've read, based on real life experiences in the Lebanese civil war, may help you see the light on such things. I recommend you read it if is possible for you. I took the liberty to translate a particularly relevant part of the book:See, you would think that people who say to have suffered so much would have a culture revolving around NOT being like the people they accuse of genocide.
Wajdi Mouawad - Incendies - Page 43 said:Context: Nawal is looking for her missing child with the help of her friend Sawda. They investigate the orphanage of Kfar Rayat where they meet the doctor there.
NAWAL. And the orphans who were here, where are they now?
THE DOCTOR. It happened so quickly. The refugees arrived. They took everyone. Even the newborn babies. Every single one of them. They were furious.
THE DOCTOR. To avenge themselves. Two days ago, the militia hanged three teenage refugees who got outside the camps. Why did the militia hang these adolescents? Because two refugees from the camp had raped and killed a girl from the village of Kfar Samira. Why did these two guys rape the girl? Because the militia stoned a refugee family. Why did the militia stone the family? Because refugees had burned a house near the hill of thymes. Why did the refugees burn that house? Because the militia destroyed one of their water wells. Why did the militia destroy the refugees' well? Because refugees burned the harvests near the river of the dog. Why did the refugees burn the harvests? There is most likely a reason, my memory stops here, I cannot recall events further down the line. But the story could go on for a long while. From anger to anger, from sorrow to sadness, from rape to murder, until the beginning of creation.
no.Well I wanted to start a completely different thread, not to join this. Please put my thread back to the section I posted. @Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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I wanted to create a whole new content ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than this chaotic conversation. If you don't put my content where it was I will report you for abusing administration powers. I will say again, please put my content where it was. If I wanted to join this thread, I'd do it instead of creating a thread. @Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
that's not how this works fam. please refer to the rules, relevant section quoted below for your convenience (for the third time, now):If you don't put my content where it was I will report you for abusing administration powers
as this was a topic already being discussed, your duplicate thread was merged into this existing thread, in accordance with the rules.Likewise, if a topic is already being discussed, please use the existing thread rather than creating duplicate threads.
Thanks for answering all these questions. However, can't read the book within minutes so I will say nothing until I read the PDF1. Yes
6. The proof goes all the way back to when it happened and was reported on. Eugene Rogan has a good summary in this book:
The Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle East: Rogan, Eugene: 9780465097425: Amazon.com: BooksThe Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle East [Rogan, Eugene] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle Eastwww.amazon.com
7. Irrelevant to this topic (like the other questions)
@Antoine de Saint-Exupéry thinks this is relevant to this post so deleted my thread and added it here as a comment. I wanted to create a whole new content but he's abusing his administration powers and now I ended up in this thread. He'll be reported for that7. Irrelevant to this topic (like the other questions)