funny, that. it's almost like a forum and a university are different things. i did not expect that. ?
I agree with you, but I do not agree with your tone nor your method. You're just mean*. Hobeto does have a point. When you refute a source/proof, you have the burden of proof, no matter how right you are. Things will never change because you're right, they change because you can prove you're right.funny, that. it's almost like a forum and a university are different things. i did not expect that. ?
I disagree! It is entertaining to see deniers do mental gymnastics. Their ideas twist and untwist with the agility of a penguin and the grace of a worm. Their reasoning is poetically epic. Their facts comparable to inspiring stories of heroic nationalism. You must admire the creativity of their minds. Their arguments give birth to the most entertaining of fictions. Credit must be given where credit is due. The Turkish mind is brilliant and it should be celebrated.Denying the Armenian Genocide's existence is spam.
Denying the Armenian Genocide's existence is spam.
That's the thing, it isn't political. That's a lie the turkish world has told itself many times. There will be no consequence acknowledging the events. In fact, an acknlowdgement may even restore some of Turkey's reputation, which is not great at the moment.I think Armenian Genocide does not exist rather people use the fact that people died during the relocation process as a political material to gain ethical leverage on world politics.
There is plenty of evidence. Any serious internet search will yield results which definitely provide hard evidence of the event occurring. Also, many big non turkish libraries contain excellent books on the subject matter and I encourage you to educate yourself.There's no evidence of systematic killings perpetrated by Turkish people to cleanse ethnically the area, rather there are people who suffered through hard conditions and died whether they are being Armenian, Turk or other ethnical profiles.
The only thing we blame the younger generations is wilful ignorance.there is no use of blaming the young'uns over something their ancestors are guilty of.
There is plenty of evidence. Any serious internet search will yield results which definitely provide hard evidence of the event occurring. Also, many big non turkish libraries contain excellent books on the subject matter and I encourage you to educate yourself.So is telling people to accept it, because you are literally asking people to change their opinion of something which is highly debatable and hardly provable, which they will, of course, won't change their opinions about.
The only thing we blame the younger generations is wilful ignorance.
There is plenty of evidence. Any serious internet search will yield results which definitely provide hard evidence of the event occurring. Also, many big non turkish libraries contain excellent books on the subject matter and I encourage you to educate yourself.
To learn from parts of history, you need to acknowledge that they happened.I wish that was the only point of blaming in this field of subject for all parties involved, then this entire debate would be much more rational. This is kind of a topic people tend to bring up for unleashing personal grudges, political issues or racist tendencies (by that I mean against the Turks and by the Turks). Hell, I'd say we should rather look into the fact if it happened or not, not if one should acknowledge it or not. Because at the end of the day, acknowledging some historical event changes nothing. We learn history that we might not repeat the mistakes we did.
Yet you chose to post on the English language side. I don't come to the Turkish language side using Google Translate. Thus, you should strive to post in a manner that other people can understand what you're saying.Sry for me is not English such a important Language but atleast i can communicate a less which "Whatevers" like you.
I critisized the people who just writes their argument without any kind of support and expects us to accept their arguments as "facts". It does not work that way. If you don't want to contribute discussion, you don't have to post anything. It's no excuse to posting spam and i felt the responsibility to explicitly state so that we can go back to discussion.And surprise surprise, Hobeto13 refuses to accept facts and engages in a spam chain of pointless posturing instead.
Maybe this one will be a real surprise for you because i feel no connection between my argument and Turkish nationalism. I just refuse to bear the responsibility of a coup government's inhumane decision. I don't carry any responsibility over this neither Turkish people do. But even then i don't think it is a genocide. Not in the sense there was no violance, rather it was not systematical and in a level that whole society contributed into this.Poor nationalistic ego, so fragile, so vulnerable. You can see the exact moment when he became emotional as his writing got noticeably worse in the heat of the moment.
Ah, yes. Since you don't agreed with the past politics of your country it must mean that the country did nothing wrong at all!I don't carry any responsibility over this neither Turkish people do. But even then i don't think it is a genocide. Not in the sense there was no violance, rather it was not systematical and in a level that whole society contributed into this.