Archers...shoot please

[pixelslayer]

Anyone else notice archers literally dont fire unless the enemy is 6ft in front of them like 90% of the time? The other 10% they are launching those arrows across the map.....What gives?

 

[redtecho]

It depends on the time of day.
If it is at night they don't shoot far, (Unless it is the poachers mission or the raid bandit camp)
During the day they shoot as normal.
I wish they had just made night battles more visually dynamic, but it is at least a mechanic.

 

[haws3r]

Funny things is only YOUR archers. Once looters for example are in rock throwing range and they start to shower us with pebbles my archers are still just picking their teeth like "wut?"

 

[redtecho]

There is also a highly strict LoS system.
If you do not abide by it archers will not fire at all.

 

[pixelslayer]

There is also a highly strict LoS system.
If you do not abide by it archers will not fire at all.

Yeah i noticed if i have my archers behind my infantry line they typically wont fire, like in warband. I didnt make the night day connection though. I'll pay more attention to that going forward

 

[Darky5]

Simple fix; Remove the night time range reduction.
Workaround; Fight during the day.
Easy exploit; Fight ranged armies at night with javelin infantry.

 

[redtecho]

Simple fix; Remove the night time range reduction.
Workaround; Fight during the day.
Easy exploit; Fight ranged armies at night with javelin infantry.

I actually think it would be really cool if they actually made night battles real night battles.
If they made it harder for the player to see it would be much less jarring when their archers don't shoot as far.

 

[Nathoz]

Simple fix; Remove the night time range reduction.
Workaround; Fight during the day.
Easy exploit; Fight ranged armies at night with javelin infantry.

thats not a problem to be fixed , its a feature , as you said yourself , on the "exploit" part , its just a strategy . the same way you bring alot of archers to fight an army with mounted archers.

 

[kanzy]

I have no issue with this feature if it applies to NPC armies as well but I see to get showered with arrows while my archers are standing still getting hit, I didn't know night vision gear was in the game?

 

[lcmiracle]

I always park on a hill and ride with horse archers to harass and I've notice my archers can shoot pretty far. Doesn't work too well in the woods obviously, too many covers.

 

[Dudesoe]

There does seem to be a bug if i think you fight in early morning where you literially can't shoot unless they're in melee for archers, I've experienced this three times and the enemy archers won't fire until melee either. And yes, I do know positioning infront of melees and loose position, I've done it and they still wouldn't fire until melee. I definetly do believe it has to do with the early morning condition but im unsure, it might just be a bug.

 

[Jhaerik]

thats not a problem to be fixed , its a feature , as you said yourself , on the "exploit" part , its just a strategy . the same way you bring alot of archers to fight an army with mounted archers.

If it's a strategy then I could be able to tell my archers to fire even if they can't see ****, or have then executed for disobeying a direct order.

Currently the only "strategy" in this game is to spam a bunch of infantry and tell them to charge, or use all mounted units and ride around in circles shooting arrows.

 

[Darky5]

thats not a problem to be fixed , its a feature , as you said yourself , on the "exploit" part , its just a strategy . the same way you bring alot of archers to fight an army with mounted archers.

I consider it a pretty jarring problem.
Especially when the night time reduction is applied even when it's not midnight.
I wouldn't have a problem with it if it only reduced the range during like 8 pm to 4 am, but as of right now, it seems to be 6pm to 8 am and it's 50% of the entire day you cannot use archers in ANY battles.
I would suggest moving the times around, and making the reduction not as big as it is now. Right now they sometimes don't even shoot in throwing weapons range.

 

[left2live]

I consider it a pretty jarring problem.
Especially when the night time reduction is applied even when it's not midnight.
I wouldn't have a problem with it if it only reduced the range during like 8 pm to 4 am, but as of right now, it seems to be 6pm to 8 am and it's 50% of the entire day you cannot use archers in ANY battles.
I would suggest moving the times around, and making the reduction not as big as it is now. Right now they sometimes don't even shoot in throwing weapons range.

yea i have had the same issue, even mid day my archers wont shoot unless the enemy is like 40 meters away, then they shoot 1-2 volleys then i need to pull them back (most of the time they just got time for 1 volley)

 

[Naridos]

I have noticed that if I place my archers further behind my line of infantry or in front before the battle, they will start to shoot sooner and as soon as the enemy is within range. They apparently have a problem with them being amongst the infantry line and will not fire. I think this is because of the LOS issue. Try it out and let me know.

 

[Captain Buzz]

I get it worst in the snow

 

[redtecho]

Lol everyone can quit complaining now,
They've patched it out of the game.

 

[paladinx333]

If they made it harder for the player to see

In some night battles I literally can't see what is going on. I was going to suggest some kind of gamma correction. I tried cranking the brightness, but that made the nights look like I was stuck in a glowing fog bank. Gamma correction would allow you to make nights as dark as you want and allow me to see what is going on.