I never wrote the Hussite Wars were started by peasants.
I newer wrote that you wrote they were started by peasants. Word peasant isn't nowhere in the quote you took from me.
The Flemish PEASANT REVOLT certainly did.
So what? What does have revolting peasants to do with feudal levy?
Go sodding read about it a bit - even the bloody wikipedia page will tell you that much.
Peasants had major presence in Hussite armies, especially earlier on. A lot of them went on to become professional soldiers, to the point where Hussite mercenaries were present in other European countries even after the whole thing fell apart.
You're just bending words around the fact that majority of Hussite armies WERE low-class former civilians. And a lot of them were straight-up farmers.
Farmer is not peasant, I have already provided you with the definition of the word. And all feudal levies were composed of majority of civilians. That's a definition of a levy.
WTF are you on about? I pointed out the flail was symbolic of the Hussites in the same way that the longbow was symbolic of the English forces in the 100 years war.
Flail wasn't symbolic of the Hussites and longbow wasn't symbolic of the English forces in the 100 years war.
These are banners used by the Hussite, apart from general symbols of the Bohemian Kingdom or emblems of the cities. I don't see any flails on them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussites#Factions/Groups
You are free to show me English banners, heraldic symbols or shield symbols with longbow of 100 Years War. There are none.
Doesn't discount the presence of any other type of armament or troop type, but that they had notable and influential presence of the battlefield.
So did handguns, crossbows, swords, spears, pikes, war wagons. So what?
You're starting to seriously annoy me, because I hate purposeful disingenuity.
The whole bloody point is that the Asseize lists people WITHOUT WEALTH OR LAND as being required to be armed. That is what the last line is about.
I don't care whom Asseize lists as required to be armed. We are talking about those who were required to serve in the army.
And I told you that contemporary laws in that respect did not look at class sub-division, but wealth of a person.
Exactly. Which is why you can't find peasants in those laws listed in the levy. Only people with wealth were required to serve.
Are you seriously quoting an uncited wiki at me? Should I go and retort with some uncited questionable claim from another blog or whatnot? Oh, you know, let me use the same "wiki" you just threw at me:
That's the type of a person who has no wealth, and qualifies to bring just bows and arrows when summoned, as per the Asseize.
There is no such person in the Assize.
*Citation needed. Because as far as I recall a detailed study of the 100 years war (wish I could recall and find it right now), at least in the earlier decades majority of the longbowmen were villains that saw enlistment as a way to raise their economic status (and were far less disruptive to local economy to let go than richer peasants).
Tough luck. Feel free to come back once you recall.
No, you're just repeating something you apparently read elsewhere, and didn't bother to research on your own. And by now are repeating it against direct evidence of their presence you yourself provided... so why do I even bother anymore.
That's just your assumption.
So, the levy did not exist, or miraculously came into existence when the lord called from twigs and leaves?
Levy is military force raised in the particular manner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levy
It does not exist until it's raised. By a lord in the medieval case.
Where the hell do you think the mass formation of poor infantry, reported in next to every conteporary account of battles whenever they focus on army composition, came from? PFI Depot?
I don't know, given "poor infantry" is not mentioned in the next to every contemporary account of battles. I think you made it up yourself.
Stop.
No it does not. "People who live in the woods" have no "land of property."
Said who?
And they were the most numerous element of rural population - as per even your own greatly-unsourced article linked above.
People living in the woods were hardly most numerous element of rural population. People living on the fields and pastures were.
The Asseize alone makes it clear even people with no wealth whatsoever were expected to be armed, and respond to call to arms. On top of all the other sources that make it clear medieval warfare (at least in the early periods) was not just domain of professionals. Your continued argument to the contarry is inane, at best.
False:
At the same time, the Assize of Arms of Henry III makes it very clear that unarmed serfs were not expected to leave the fields and fall into ranks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/227qb2/how_often_were_peasant_levies_used_in_medieval/