Aquiring Dark Knight Troops

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While playing through this mod I became obsessed with the Dark Knights. They are the most powerful faction in the game.
They seem to be just about as normal as any other faction politically though. So I thought instead of getting recruits from other factions towns, why not get a whole army of darkies?
I found out there are many successful ways to recruit dark knights into your party.

1. PRISONERS (your own)
Attack Dark Knight parties (outside! if you attack their castles you will get pwned) and get as many prisoners as you can.
- now if you go to your camp menu, you can select "recruit prisoners into party". make sure u only have darkies as prisoners, then click this.
if you are close to a town or castle garrison any dk's you make have recruited. This will stop them from running away at night. In the morning, pick them up.
- the best way to recruit dk prisoners to your party is if you have any owned town that's about to rebel. Garrison all your dk prisoners inside, and take out all your troop garrison.
The only garrison you should have in the town is dk prisoners. Now wait till the town rebels, attack it, and you can rescue the dk prisoners and instantly recruit them into your party!

2. ENEMY PARTIES WITH DK PRISONERS
Attack any enemy party with DK prisoners. If the party is not an enemy, you can declare war on them from the camp menu.
- if win a battle against an enemy with dk prisoners, you can rescue the prisoners and recruit them into your party

3. YOUR OWN DK LORDS (BEST WAY)
Ally with the dark knights. This can be done by not taking them prisoner if they attack you, and trying to do missions for any of their lords.
Try to grant land to every dk lord. If you are successful, they will join your faction.
- The lord will make his own dk troops, so now you have a powerful lord with a great dk army!
- Give the lord as many lands as possible. He will garrison many Dark Knights inside castles and towns.
wait until you have as many dk's you want in a certain castle or town, find your lord, take that fief from him, and recruit all the garrison into your party!
^THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO GET HUNDREDS OF DARK KNIGHTS!^
 
Yeah! Now we can pwn all the other factions effortlessly! Now to just get a bunch of swadian knights to even out the army a notch.
 
the DK fraction got eliminated in my game, is it possible to bring the DKs back somehow? if i set invasion time to 400, would they invade again?
 
Actually...
The only dialogue that i got with DK were-
The attack one
and
the leave one
i think isnt possible YET to recruit them
 
with one dark lord I got the dialoge option that allows him to join me. I stumbled on this by accident. Actually tried to attack him.

Anyway I would guess that this can happem when the dark lord had a fief already but lost it.

In my game the dark knights do not do very well. They have tulga and ismira castle and thats it. Their Queen sits in my prison and I won´t release her. The other lords loose to the Ai from time to time when they gang up on the dark lord and beat thhem with superior numbers in the autocalc.
 
Dark Knights will not EVER be recruitable from villages. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER.

We'll work on making Dark Lords non-recruitable and set each of their troops to be non-capturable.
 
Ouch, gear that can't be sold for full value (town money limits) and no ransoms?  :shock: I like it!  :twisted:
 
Never, ever, use their troops.  They disgrace your army and are over all evil.  Really, if they don't escape, I think their lords should commit suicide, just to show off their brutal-honor culture.

P.S. I still hate getting my ass kicked by them :razz:.  I understand they need to be difficult, but really, could we at least tell our archers to aim for the horses!  Right now the only thing you can do against them is really long 2h weapon/horse arch their horses, and then you stand a SMALL chance assuming you have a lot of top tier troops.  Actually, that has been working lately, till I take a braced spear to the horse!
 
Defeat the DK and you may be able to recruit the lords from jail.  I've fought larktin in the duel and won. Also I fought Purin and won and then asked him to join me and he did.  For some reason I can't assign land to him.  That may be bad down the line if he's unhappy.  Fought another DK and lost and now he's gone.

Interesting tactics on recruiting DK.  I like the rebelling city one.

As for the comment on getting pwned when attacking their castles well I disagree. Bring lots of archers and let them do the heavy lifting.  When they run out of arrows charge them until reinforcements come. Then hold position out in front of the castle and let the new guys loose all their arrows.  Rinse/repeat.  Make sure most of your archers are out of commission before you take the city.  You will need good fighters for the street and inner chamber battle.  (Bring a good surgeon so you don't loose too many archers.) If you loose the secondary and tertiary battles just pull back and heal then strike again.

If you can take the city in the first attack then all their spare troops become prisoners.  So bring a companion raiding party with you so they can take the excess prisoners.  Sucks to capture 500 DK troops and only have space for 80.
 
I rescued a ton of them too, kept them in my army because it seemed stupid not to.  I don't think taking away the option to capture them is the solution.  If something is too easy then bring on new challenges, don't make it harder by placing limits on gameplay.
 
That would help if I could BEAT Them! I had 110 mid-tier/top tier swadian troops, consisting of mainly Infantry, Acolytes, Crossbowmen, Sharpshooters, and Skirmishers with 4 two handed swordsman and one champion.

I got wiped out, not a single kill. What did I do wrong? I had little to no Calvary, but they still get owned also! I AM SO tired of this! Please help!

Note: I tell my archers to hold position right behind my infantry.
 
The Mercenary said:
Dark Knights will not EVER be recruitable from villages. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER.

We'll work on making Dark Lords non-recruitable and set each of their troops to be non-capturable.
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Eh... by the sounds of this thread, people are having fun using DK troops.  If you're going to make them non-recruitable and non-capturable, I think that should be an option you can change from the camp menu.

Personally I was kinda surprised when I realised that more DK troops were being produced.  I mean, where were they coming from?
 
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