As of the current standing in match between Destiny Masters and Risen Manifest happened a rule break: Varadin and 1or3 were banned for "modyfying" the game files and adding a crosshair to their games, which resulted in both of them being banned for 3 games. Then a 12-0 default was assigned to RM, and we as DM don't agree to this outcome, and as we tried to appeal it was declined as admins decided that it is a major advantage, and then according to that Risen Manifest claimed a 12-0 default. We believe, that first of all crosshair is not a major advantage, especially not an advantage that decides the match's result. Then we as players think that rulling 12-0 like this is contradictionary to the spirit of non-paid tournament that BEAST in fact is. We all as players play here for our results to be decided in game, and our time investement is to be represented as official results of our matches. In that case, we believe that this kind of rulling was in fact unfair. Also the rule that led admin team to take such a decision is too broad:
§ 2 Cheating
§2(3)
(3) If a player is found to have broken any of the rules during a match and the admins determine that a significant* advantage was gained, that player's team will forfeit the relevant rounds. (*'significant' in the technical sense of 'potentially possible to measure')
I went around and asked all Division A teams about their opinion on the situation, and all of them agreed with my point of view that assigning a default to RM is in fact not a fair result, for both BEAST ladder and Destiny Masters. What we believe is more fair is a rematch between RM and DM during the week inbetween week 5 and finals. That way we can ensure that competetive spirit of the tournament is preserved and no scores are unfairly assigned to teams over forums instead of being decided in game. Here are the proofs of all div A teams opinions:
Division A 5/6:
Division B 5/6
Division C (3 teams only cuz they are the only ones I managed to ask)
Also we propose for a rule that lead to such an unfair decision to be changed, so in the future we can avoid situations like these that led to endless arguing:
If advantage is clear and the unfair edge over the other team can be easily measured(ex. autoblock,wallhack,aimbot), then the rounds in which the player found cheating shall be defaulted. If the advantage is impossible to measure or minor(change of UI colour, crosshair), then on the request of the team that was facing the team with such advantage is the decision if they want to replay the rounds in which the found cheating player was taking part in or to accept the original result. The player which was found to use a modification or cheat is automatically suspended for the replay of the aforementioned rounds.
In fact, we would also propose crosshairs to become exception of this rule, as an access to them is easy, and they can be obtained through various ways, including monitor settings, external softwares, gluing a piece of material to your screen.
Also I appreciate any feedback from others.
@Aeronwen @Ikea Knight @LaPache @Gotha @Quadri @DonNeto @Hisoka @Jufasto
§ 2 Cheating
§2(3)
(3) If a player is found to have broken any of the rules during a match and the admins determine that a significant* advantage was gained, that player's team will forfeit the relevant rounds. (*'significant' in the technical sense of 'potentially possible to measure')
I went around and asked all Division A teams about their opinion on the situation, and all of them agreed with my point of view that assigning a default to RM is in fact not a fair result, for both BEAST ladder and Destiny Masters. What we believe is more fair is a rematch between RM and DM during the week inbetween week 5 and finals. That way we can ensure that competetive spirit of the tournament is preserved and no scores are unfairly assigned to teams over forums instead of being decided in game. Here are the proofs of all div A teams opinions:
Division A 5/6:
Division B 5/6
Division C (3 teams only cuz they are the only ones I managed to ask)
Also we propose for a rule that lead to such an unfair decision to be changed, so in the future we can avoid situations like these that led to endless arguing:
If advantage is clear and the unfair edge over the other team can be easily measured(ex. autoblock,wallhack,aimbot), then the rounds in which the player found cheating shall be defaulted. If the advantage is impossible to measure or minor(change of UI colour, crosshair), then on the request of the team that was facing the team with such advantage is the decision if they want to replay the rounds in which the found cheating player was taking part in or to accept the original result. The player which was found to use a modification or cheat is automatically suspended for the replay of the aforementioned rounds.
In fact, we would also propose crosshairs to become exception of this rule, as an access to them is easy, and they can be obtained through various ways, including monitor settings, external softwares, gluing a piece of material to your screen.
Also I appreciate any feedback from others.
@Aeronwen @Ikea Knight @LaPache @Gotha @Quadri @DonNeto @Hisoka @Jufasto
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