Apologies about Fall of Rome

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Ramaraunt

Hello, I am the mod author of the Fall of Rome mod. I hate saying this, but if you donated to James Titan (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198114214388/), who was going to be the owner of the official server, there is a large possibility that you were scammed. He disappeared and is no longer replying to anyone's messages. In light of this, I am completely disgusted, and I feel that I am in a position that I must apologize. I am glad that I didn't personally donate any money to him, though I did spend a lot of my time building the mod. However, I do not see this time as wasted, since the mod is open source, so it is available for anyone in the community to add to their server.

Again, I deeply apologize for your loss of money, and I recommend you talk with Paypal to get it back right away.
 
I can't really say something without being insulting.
He should go and shove a shovel up his little arsehole and spend the money on some strap-on dildos.

Exactly because this kind of, assholes, people do not donate and support other modules which have big potential.
 

Azrayel

Sergeant Knight at Arms
He did host a server, it's just nobody played and everyone says the map available was utter ass.  His snap chat is full of **** like flying planes, I sincerely doubt he has any motivation to split with the donor's money.

I should've hurried up and finished my other map, I probably will sometime in the next week or two, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions--not responding is one thing, but if he claimed he'd fund the server with the money and he did indeed fund the server with the money, where's the scam?

edit: iHave since confirmed with Ramaraunt that he was promised undelivered monetary compensation without explanation.
 

Ramaraunt

I don't really want to get into an argument over this. But he promised to host a server, and he dropped it after a few days and stopped replying to me or the other developers of the mod when we tried talking to him. He would go offline as soon as we started sending messages. I know his server went online for a few days, but people donated to him expecting more than that. They donated enough for it to last several months, so there is nowhere the extra money could have gone to besides his own wallet. I know for a fact he had at least $200 in donations. Also, I was told that I would be payed for my work on the mod. I didn't demand him to pay me, since I usually do work for free, but money is always nice. He never payed me a cent, further proving the fact that he is a disgusting individual who manipulated us all for his own monetary gain.

This whole experience has been very unfortunate, and has caused me to seriously reconsider ever making a mod again. When a good friend you think you can trust backstabs you and hurts people around you at your expense, it is the only natural thing to happen.
 
Before you start making assumptions, check how much he really got in donations, if you can even know that. Facts like those may change the whole story, and prevent situations like the you put yourself in a couple weeks ago.
 

Ramaraunt

Captain Connner said:
Before you start making assumptions, check how much he really got in donations, if you can even know that. Facts like those may change the whole story, and prevent situations like the you put yourself in a couple weeks ago.

I'm not making assumptions. I was literally with him the whole time, and I saw the whole thing. Stop being a prick. Thanks.
 
Ramaraunt said:
Captain Connner said:
Before you start making assumptions, check how much he really got in donations, if you can even know that. Facts like those may change the whole story, and prevent situations like the you put yourself in a couple weeks ago.

I'm not making assumptions. I was literally with him the whole time, and I saw the whole thing. Stop being a prick. Thanks.

"Being with him" do not make your claims valid all of a sudden. So before you start throwing around numbers, get some real facts and evidence supporting them.
 
I wonder why you were involved  :roll: :roll:

If he wants to defend himself, then he can do it on his own.
It clearly was a scam, due to the server was never released and he received donations.
It doesn't matter how high they were.
 

Big Daddy Vitallion

Master Knight
WBNW
Not wanting to get overly involved, but Ram has a point.

As far as I know, James has a reputation for distasteful modding acts over the course of his Warband life. I cant point names or mods since I dont know, but i've been told by several people who worked on this mod that they were uncomfortable working with James because of similar practices like this he's done in the past, though not as crass as money grabbing and running.

From my position, James had been asking the mod community for a full £80 minimum JUST for scripts, not for a server. He managed to raise the money in one transaction from a guy called Shas whom, whilst very drunk (and yes im being serious), donated to the paypal link in the FoR steam group after a steam announcement asking for donations. Shas demanded the money back the next day because he was understandably pissed, but James stated that he had moved the money to another account and spent it on the scripts that day, even though he later contradicted this by claiming he acquired the scripts at a later date.
The server, a rather poorly hosted NA server hosted by unknown, though i've been told it's you Connor (hence why you're involving yourself in this), appeared for a few days before dropping. At first it seemed like the server dropped so another version could be worked on with better scripts and scenes, but the server never came back up. I did some probing at this point to find out that James had completely distanced himself from the module in both name and position, actively avoiding confrontation about the module to the extent of shutting his steam and teamspeak off (this is coming from 4 other parties whom attempted to contact him about the module).

Now, several things leap out at me here.
One is James constant contradictions about funding, script prices and their eventual acquisition.
Two is the fact that Ramaraunt, the base coder for the module, claims to me that James actually had the scripts made IN HOUSE by a friend of his, therefore negating why he would need donations.
Three, and i'm just going off of what i've been told, but parties have told me that James and you (Connor) have a nice system set up where he is provided a very cheap server. I'm not exactly sure what his side of any deal is, but this isn't the first time James has supposedly shut down a module down server side VERY early on after acquiring things from interested community members. Now, once again, i'm not accusing anyone of anything i'm just reiterating what i've heard, but this in THEORY would also make you partly responsible for James' practices with small mods since you'd know what he's been doing with the server. I've heard fairly negative things about you in the past Connor but once again, i'm NOT insinuating anything directly. Dont shoot the messenger.



At first I thought James had simply withdrawn due to embarrassment about mod release being a total failure, but a different picture has been painted the last few weeks. I highly doubt James will come onto this thread to defend himself, firstly because he likely doesn't care but second because nothing can be DIRECTLY proven, right now its just VERY heavy circumstantial evidence.

We're working on developing a module similar to FoR that'll be in-house controlled by the MoR Dev team directly so there shouldn't be any tom ****ery from here on in regarding that, since servers will be privately hosted by clans. If anyone has any other version of events do chip in, everyone seems to have heard something completely different about this and i'm personally curious to see what images have been painted in every body else's eyes.

EDIT: As Azra says, James did actually promise Shas full compensation for his donation when he acquired the money, but as of now has obviously failed to do this, hell he's failed at even talking to the guy (i've checked). Shas isnt exactly the type of guy you hold money out on, as a friend of mine its likely James' PC will pop like a baloon when 20TB of hardcore animal porn are sent to it for not paying in a timely manner, but his refusal to even acknowledge that he cant pay back should also shed some light on his attitude towards this.

Further Edit: This only just occurred to me, but James DID get donations from other parties as well. He must have got WAY over the amount he was asking for even though that amount is suspiciously high, so where he's put that money which he obviously didn't spend on the server or scripts is up for debate.
 
Ramaurant and his buddies were "**** posting" on our threads, claimimg stuff that was not backed up by facts and evidence at all. If it did not serve as a reminder for them to not repeat that mistake again, it serves as a warning for others; don't immediately trust people on their word, and do your own research if there is not sufficient evidence provided before starting a witch hunt.

Saying something is "speculation", and posting that on a public forum is just as good as an accusation.

We provide gameservers for various games for a low price. If you cared to take a look at our website you would see. The only involvement I've had was hosting a server for a customer, which I later got to meet because he'd added me on Steam and had asked if I could provide scripts for his mod. I could not, as I only have scripts for PW. So I referred him to the scripter which also provides us with them, Gedizz. From that point on communications ended.


Check your facts before you accuse me, please.
 

Big Daddy Vitallion

Master Knight
WBNW
Captain Connner said:
Ramaurant and his buddies were "**** posting" on our threads, claimimg stuff that was not backed up by facts and evidence at all. If it did not serve as a reminder for them to not repeat that mistake again, it serves as a warning for others; don't immediately trust people on their word, and do your own research if there is not sufficient evidence provided before starting a witch hunt.

Saying something is "speculation", and posting that on a public forum is just as good as an accusation.

We provide gameservers for various games for a low price. If you cared to take a look at our website you would see. The only involvement I've had was hosting a server for a customer, which I later got to meet because he'd added me on Steam and had asked if I could provide scripts for his mod. I could not, as I only have scripts for PW. So I referred him to the scripter which also provides us with them, Gedizz. From that point on communications ended.


Check your facts before you accuse me, please.

Alright Beatrice dont turn this into a **** slinging match, "If you cared to take a look", "Check your facts". Christ its like you're attempting to fight your way through the gates of heaven. I'm only reporting what i've been directly told be people close to the event, my own experience (being close to the event), and what i've heard about you which I falsely presumed you'd appreciate knowing about.

Once again, dont cut yourself on all the edges you're sprouting and don't shoot someone who's trying to help with added info.
 
Ej777 said:
Captain Connner said:
Ramaurant and his buddies were "**** posting" on our threads, claimimg stuff that was not backed up by facts and evidence at all. If it did not serve as a reminder for them to not repeat that mistake again, it serves as a warning for others; don't immediately trust people on their word, and do your own research if there is not sufficient evidence provided before starting a witch hunt.

Saying something is "speculation", and posting that on a public forum is just as good as an accusation.

We provide gameservers for various games for a low price. If you cared to take a look at our website you would see. The only involvement I've had was hosting a server for a customer, which I later got to meet because he'd added me on Steam and had asked if I could provide scripts for his mod. I could not, as I only have scripts for PW. So I referred him to the scripter which also provides us with them, Gedizz. From that point on communications ended.


Check your facts before you accuse me, please.

Alright Beatrice dont turn this into a **** slinging match, "If you cared to take a look", "Check your facts". Christ its like you're attempting to fight your way through the gates of heaven. I'm only reporting what i've been directly told be people close to the event, my own experience (being close to the event), and what i've heard about you which I falsely presumed you'd appreciate knowing about.

Once again, dont cut yourself on all the edges you're sprouting and don't shoot someone who's trying to help with added info.

You're not being very helpful if you are just calling out names and accusations without actually telling what has been said exactly.
 

Ramaraunt

The whole point I made this thread was for matters of honesty and integrity. I wanted people to know what happened instead of leaving them in the dark. Honor and integrity are obviously things that Oasis Hosting doesn´t understand.
Please note that Oasis Hosting was obviously helping James, so of course Conner is interested in spamming crap in this thread to help his buddy.

Oh wait a second, I was about to get into a pissing contest with a skunk. My apologies.

Time to lock this thread.
 
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