Americans a broken people?
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In the case of the English settlers it was largely due to either fleeing Cromwell and his Puritan fundamentalists, or by the end fleeing the backlash against Cromwell's Puritan fundamentalism. Although it wasn't so much freedom of religion as the opportunity to retain all their limbs that attracted them over there.Magorian Aximand 说:
They finally built that moat across the Canadian border?Mage246 说:
America follows the same pattern as the rest of the world. Religion seems to decline the further one gets from the equator. Weird that.
Merentha 说:
I was half tempted to reply with just a shocked smiley...
Archonsod 说:
If I remember correctly (which I may not, I'll have to check) the Puritan settlers had their deal running in the MBC prior to the puritan takeover in England.
Yes, but the main exodus began in 1630. It's all tied in to Charles I and the various religious conflicts which permeated his reign. In fact, you could probably tell which faction was in favour by the religious makeup of the immigrants to America at the time. Apart from the Catholics who were largely a result of Cromwell's campaign to pacify Ireland, by killing or deporting any Catholics he found (i.e. most of the Irish).
Mage246
Archonsod 说:They finally built that moat across the Canadian border?Mage246 说:
That's my point. Canada is the odd country out, not the U.S.
Mage246
Not really, seeing as how that was never specified.
Ebin
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The tea part movement was a show of independance? I thought it was a bunch of rednecks complaining cause they have to actually help their country by paying taxes.... Oops I was kind of late to that actually.
But after reading some of the posts back. I think America is split into people who value the constitution and people who don't care. Of course, those who value the constitution usually only value one or two amendments. Like my dad, he only cares about the 2nd. Me, I focus on the first, second, fifth, sixth, and the tenth. I usually forget the rest. But as always, I believe those are usually misinterpreted.
But after reading some of the posts back. I think America is split into people who value the constitution and people who don't care. Of course, those who value the constitution usually only value one or two amendments. Like my dad, he only cares about the 2nd. Me, I focus on the first, second, fifth, sixth, and the tenth. I usually forget the rest. But as always, I believe those are usually misinterpreted.
Don't mark yourselves down, most of us Canadians haven't even really read our own constitution let alone memorized parts of it. In fact, there's nothing in our constitution that says the government couldn't take property away from people.
Archonsod 说:
Well, many of the Irish were on their way here because of the Enclosure issues. There obviously was religious tension in that whole mess, but it was an English decision that sent them here, not the want of their own religious freedom. Though, some English decided to relocate the people to the colonies rather than Ireland (which was what was pushing the Irish out), so you had that group showing up as well. My point is not that seeking religious freedom was non existent, but rather that it played a smaller part than people tend to think and was not a founding ideal in the creation of the country.
The tax dodge(s) were just the excuse. When I talk about founding ideals, I mean the things that built the character of the country; the things that separated us from England ideally, rather than literally.
