Ambushes confirmed ?

[Piconi]

At arround 4:41 onward we see ambush related skills, and detailed descriptions which confirm there are going to be ambushes in the game!

This is a glorious day !

The much desired feature, that we were told was removed because "it wasnt working as intended" seems to be back!
We have to give this guy some credit, he willingly sacrificed his gameplay time at gamescom 2019 in order to dig deep into skills/perks and encyclopedia, he also did an interview with Armagan which he said he will upload soon!

This man deserves many more subs !

MikeSavage

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Edit: Also added the custom link to his video so he could get more views, which he deserves, because i am not sure if playing it just on forum counts as a view...

 

[Aboud2195]

Maybe they changed the way it was supposed to work?

 

[vicwiz007]

Dont get your hopestm up too much. They may just be relics back from when ambushes were still in the game. But TW if youre going to do it, do it right! Let us deploy around our enemy Total War style

 

[Piconi]

Maybe they changed the way it was supposed to work?

He had a 40 minute interview with Armagan, that video is also coming, so we will see what he said.

I was so sad when i read ambushes were gone, now this feels like an early christmas!

I feel if they would scrap them, there wouldnt be anything related to them at gamescom ! Since they also disabled features that ARE going to be in the game, why making visible features that are suppose to be long gone ?

 

[vicwiz007]

Not saying youre wrong, but it’s much safer to be skeptical nowadays. I mean they talked about it, then Callum says theyre gone, and now theyre back? How can you not be skeptical of Bannerlord info now? 

 

[Piconi]

Not saying youre wrong, but it’s much safer to be skeptical nowadays. I mean they talked about it, then Callum says theyre gone, and now theyre back? How can you not be skeptical of Bannerlord info now? 

I found its way less stressful to just be a happy goofball made of trust towards other people and events, and sometimes bash my head to a wall, than to be sceptical and negative about everything and playing it safe.

I think i might have become a masochist ! ?

 

[HUMMAN]

If they put it in the demo, it means they wanted to show it to us. Dont consider TW that sloppy 

 

[Roy1012]

Dont consider TW that sloppy 

really hope this was intended as a joke

 

[Jonnyb1232]

Ambushes would make the game better especially if you have a smaller army than your enemy. This obviously depends though on what advantages you will get though like better morale as per the video etc. It Also will lead to planning attacks more and waiting in Ambush spots maybe for an enemy to pass by. sounds good to me!

 

[Terco_Viejo]

From a position anchored in absolute skepticism, a small flame of hope™ has been kindled within me. 

 

[Piconi]

Let us hopetm that hopetm did't die last, but that it was just knocked unconcious !

 

[Hulagu]

Good news for Battanians

 

[Piconi]

Good news for Battanians

My dreams while they were stomped:

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Battanian faction really makes no sence if they dont add ambush system. Why would they even mention it if they are removing it, or not adding at the first place ?

Battania is perfectly constructed for those kind of mechanics.
TW has most obviously found inspiration for that faction in early germanic tribes and celts that were most famous for their ambushes agains Rome (Teuteborg forest for example) and it would be their only advantage,besides superior numbers.

Without the ambush system, and/or some kind of increased multiplier for number of recruits you can gather in Battanian villages and towns (say 1.5x-2.5x more men), Battanians are doomed with their inferior armor, unfavorable faction position and lesser number of holdings.

My enthusiasm never died ? :

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As a TW forum member, veteran of the utmost loyal Taleworlds community proud owner of M&B Warband, skilled in-game archer and rider, having spent hundreds and hundreds of hours in both singleplayer and multiplayer, i pledge myself to the sacred goal of making developers of this beloved, not yet released game, to introduce the AMBUSH system to the game, i will not yield, i shall make it happen, from this day, until my last day ?

Startiiiiiing now:

Total war series have really interesting concept that make ambushes work quite well in their games.
As for the grand map overview TW could prevent ambush spam by AI by doing next:
Making the ambush "stance", or "make ambush" decision when you stop,same like "read a book" or "make camp" and others that already exist in WB, possible only in FORREST areas.

That is easily achievable as there is already a "party slowing down" in forest areas in Warband. Same areas where you party slows down can be used to mark area where anybody is able to make an ambush.

Next they can make a "pre battle troop placement" only for the ambushers, while the ambushees are caught off guard by making their troops spawn on the battlefield disorganised and all unit types mixed up as oposed to already placed ambush troops VERY close to them.

As Battania is already my favourite faction, and for the reasons i mentioned in my previous post that i requoted just now, i believe they should have some sort of advantage in these scenarios, like dense forests all arround their faction and between their cities, their army NOT slowed down by forest areas and/or inability to ambush a party that is part of Battania faction.

Creating a successful ambush by remaining invisible on the map should be related to path-finding skill, as should ability to see an ambush before you fall in their trap be related to spotting skill.

It is maybe a dream, but a beautiful one and i will not yield ! ?

 

[FBohler]

Maybe they heard the suggestions from the community with the workarounds to the problems found in early builds of the ambush feature.

 

[Piconi]

Maybe they heard the suggestions from the community with the workarounds to the problems found in early builds of the ambush feature.

That sounds almost too good ?

 

[FBohler]

Maybe they heard the suggestions from the community with the workarounds to the problems found in early builds of the ambush feature.

That sounds almost too good ?

We can only hope 

Just finished to watch the video, it was very good and informative, thanks for sharing!

 

[Piconi]

Thank you for supporting the ambush feature ?

This guy said many more gamescom videos are about to drop,he is very thorough and on point, so im tuned !
I am really excited about this feature, i'm just waiting for a dev or the Callum to shatter my dreams to bits with saying the feature is gone ?

But im filled with positivity at the moment, we can enjoy it ... for now.

 

[vicwiz007]

Not saying youre wrong, but it’s much safer to be skeptical nowadays. I mean they talked about it, then Callum says theyre gone, and now theyre back? How can you not be skeptical of Bannerlord info now? 

I found its way less stressful to just be a happy goofball made of trust towards other people and events, and sometimes bash my head to a wall, than to be sceptical and negative about everything and playing it safe.

I think i might have become a masochist ! ?

I only suggest holding your skepticism toward TW/Bannerlord, not every aspect of your life!

From a position anchored in absolute skepticism, a small flame of hope™ has been kindled within me. 

Wise words from a fellow veterantm.

 

[578]

My only question to this video is how in the **** is this guy able to give away 5 beta keys, when he is generally unknown, yet many forum members who are here for 5+ years still have not received a key?

 

[Younes]

My only question to this video is how in the **** is this guy able to give away 5 beta keys, when he is generally unknown, yet many forum members who are here for 5+ years still have not received a key?

During gamescom you could just go play on the public booth again and again and get plenty of keys. I personally didn't do it because i wanted to visit other booths