Allow reloading of crossbows on horsback

[Perturbatio]

But only a light crossbow (if they exist, if not why not dammit! ) and only if you aren't moving (either that or make steering trickier whilst doing it).

 

[raptor]

a high cost one, found rarely maybe unique given after a special mission would be nice.

 

[Perturbatio]

light crossbows don't need to be uncommon, they have a lesser range, do less damage but have the advantage of being lighter and easier to handle (thus reloading them on horseback is not outwith the realms of possibility).

 

[Manu]

Three historical wstern types wer usable on horsback :

* lightest design, reloadable by hand
* goat's foot : used a lever systemmounted to set the bow
* cranequin : used a cog winch to reload

Chinese repeating crossbow could probably be used on horseback too, but was somewhat crappy in hitting power.

 

[armagan]

Three historical wstern types wer usable on horsback :
* lightest design, reloadable by hand
* goat's foot : used a lever systemmounted to set the bow
* cranequin : used a cog winch to reload

I knew about the other two but I hadn't read or thought about the lightest design. It would be straightforward to add that to the game!

Nice thread...

 

[Manu]

The hand-reloadable ones were nothing fancy, just fitted with a bow weak enough that you could block with one hand and pullb ack with the other. It had about half the power of the claw and belt design (with a ring to put your feet and a hooked belt to catch the rope and pull it)

 

[Shyhalu]

Allowing them to be reloaded on horseback would get rid of bows.
There would be no reason to use them anymore.

Currently its speed and mobility vs accuracy and power.

 

[Seikeden]

yeah but a hand reloadable one is still slower, awkward, shorter range than a good bow and not all that powerful

Maybe it could randomly make you fall off your horse when you reload it ^^

 

[DominicWhite]

A simple tradeoff - let smaller crossbows be reloadable on horseback, but take 2-3 times as long. I mean, it's hard to keep your hands steady while thundering along on a moving animal, isn't it?

 

[Me]

Guess you could be forced to stop the horse before you can re-load. This would mean the bow is still better from horse back, but crossbow people could still do a little from horseback.

 

[Perturbatio]

Guess you could be forced to stop the horse before you can re-load. This would mean the bow is still better from horse back, but crossbow people could still do a little from horseback.

that's what I suggested in my first post

 

[Me]

Guess you could be forced to stop the horse before you can re-load. This would mean the bow is still better from horse back, but crossbow people could still do a little from horseback.

that's what I suggested in my first post

Opps, well just shows you what a good idea it was, heh.
If you look at medieval total war they had a few mounted crossbow men. Took them an age to get through there ammo since they shot so slowly and weakly.

 

[KnZ]

Crossbow reloading on horseback while riding? Maybe, but only w/ hand crossbows, and they were that weak that they couldn't pierce ever hardened leather!
So it could be quite a good idea to allow reloading while a horse stands still... But I thought of one more thing - a loaded crossbow's bolt lies freely waiting for a string to pull him forward, and if you'll ride your horse with quite a big speed your bolt will just drop!
So it will be more realistic if you won't be able even to shoot while horse's moving, and if you've reloaded a crossbow and start riding, you lose a bolt (maybe w/ some chance, about 10*mount_speed%, that doesn't matter much).

 

[Balor]

To sum it up:
Crossbows that can be fired from the horse are just not worth using/making.
They'll be weaker then bows, and with longer reload time... and STR requirement to boot (hand-drawn variety). Anyone still want it? I don't.

 

[zeebah]

why not just let them have it? then they cant complain hehe

 

[NorphTehDwarf]

Yeah. Horse crossbows were more expensive and less effective than small recurve bows, but people still made the crossbows, and other people bought 'em.

 

[KnZ]

To sum it up:
Crossbows that can be fired from the horse are just not worth using/making.
They'll be weaker then bows, and with longer reload time... and STR requirement to boot (hand-drawn variety). Anyone still want it? I don't.

Umph... No, crossbows will still be effective against shield-wearers because of their bonus damage against shields, and, imho, bolts pierce armor much better than arrows, so if Armagan adds some armor-piercing stuff to crossbows, it'll balance things up and make crossbows an unmatched weapon against heavy-armored death machines =), even the hand-drawn ones.

 

[Perturbatio]

as has been pointed out before, the biggest advantage of a crossbow is accuracy.

 

[Tiedye]

Nah, then we'd just hear a lot of complaining about how mounted crossbows are too weak. Best just nip this one in the bud.