Adoption

[kurczak]

I was informed thusly. I just thought it only applied to people who already had a culture. I subscribe to the radical notion that culture is something you acquire, not something you are born with.

 

[Temuzu]

Reported to the thought police, prepare to be culturally enriched.

 

[kurczak]

Is there any way I could swap that for monetary enrichment?

 

[Untitled.]

 

[FrisianDude]

Blaming the adoptive parents for creating demand for the black market with children

I do hope the pun was intended.

have you been shot in the head whe  you pretended to be a soldier, or what? How can you actually be less mature than you were years ago?

 

[Untitled.]

Are you kidding? The military is like the most immature place on Earth. They tried to rape me in the shower because I used too many fancy words (read: I sometimes used other words than profanities as adjectives).

 

[AWdeV]

• You have looked for your roots...
• ...without being violated, shamed or worked against
• ...without having to pay for it

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These are a bit weird in the list, tbh. Is it mandatory to look for your roots? If you are an adoptee from africa or asia or wherever and you don't look for your 'roots', are your adoptive parents or whatever agency they might have employed suddenly guilty of violating your human rights?

What does "shamed or worked against" even mean? What if it's a sibling making disparaging comments, is that shaming? Is he violating your human rights or is he just either a **** or maybe from the same place and wants to put all that behind him?

Why shouldn't you pay for it? Doesn't anyone, to some extent? Are these records usually free and publicly accessible?



To clarify my position. I do not think adoption is wrong. I do not think international adoption is wrong by default. I do think there should be more checks on that kind of thing and if those checks can't be put in place (due to local infrastructure, distance, culture, whatever obstacles) that such adoption should then be severely curtailed.

But the adoption itself is not necessarily wrong. Trafficking in people is wrong but I'm pretty sure that's illegal already. So that should be an issue of paperwork. Lots and lots of trackable, reliable, certifiable paperwork. No children to be bought or sold, no children to be taken, care should be taken that only children who have no relatives or local adoption parents whatsoever to take care of them become elligible for adoption.

But I have to ask. How many people actually adopt someone from half the world away? Is that not just a drop in the general bucket of human trafficking? Refugees extorted and crammed into trucks or boats next to all sorts of cargo, isn't that a much bigger problem? Why this sudden outrage, is there something special going on?

Are you kidding? The military is like the most immature place on Earth. They tried to rape me in the shower because I used too many fancy words (read: I sometimes used other words than profanities as adjectives).

Hah Finland. Too long has Finland beaten the Netherlands in all sorts of lists but we have one thing you guys don't have! No conscription to actively make you stupider!



Also, Temuzu? You're spending too much time on /pol/, brah. You're becoming little more than a le epic trole spouting dank memes and racist bull****. It's getting real bad dude. Go outside, get some fresh air, step away from the circlejerk and let your **** heal.

 

[Ambalon]

Children are adopted from all over the world, and within nations themselves. Not just Africa.
And many children get better lives because of it. Maybe there are more 'pros than cons' to adoption, generally speaking.

It's the white man's burden to adopt children from underdeveloped countries.

 

[Temuzu]

Also, Temuzu? You're spending too much time on /pol/, brah. You're becoming little more than a le epic trole spouting dank memes and racist bull****. It's getting real bad dude. Go outside, get some fresh air, step away from the circlejerk and let your **** heal.

I enjoy the anal anguish of random people far too much to just stop posting.

(read: I sometimes used other words than profanities as adjectives).

What are you, a cadet?

 

[Anarion]

• You have been allowed your original name and culutre

I don't think I've heard of any adoptee who hasn't received the name of their foster parents. I can also see how an evil, rich and horribly white couple could find it difficult to not impart their own culture on the child. They probably have never even been to some obscure backend of a forest in Kenya.

I think this is about being able to go and search for your roots if you want to, and that you should get to keep your name and culture if you're adopted at a late age. I can't imagine it would mean that Swedish parents are supposed to raise their adopted children with the culture they were born in, as that would be impossible to do properly, make the adopted children feel different from any biological children the parents might have, and generally just make the kids feel like they don't belong.
So that would be so much worse than raising them normally, although I'll be surprised if some well-meaning people aren't doing it anyway.

I think most adopted children just want to be thought of as a regular kid, at least all the ones I've known. They have a sense of humour about being different and are sometimes interested in their biological parent(s' culture), but they've been raised by their new parents and in the culture of the country they grew up in.

 

[Radalan]

But why don't we help the families so that they can keep their children that they love instead of taking the children and giving them to rich white couples?

If someone takes their child and gives it to rich evil white people in exchange for money, I don't think there's any love in there to begin with.