about the 222people siege server

[Galeran]

Because the sir-wain topic is closed i have to post in the front of the community.

I will be rude and say my opinion (edit : its my only opinnon) : the 222 siege server is actually killing the communauty. Why ?

1. there no more people in other server (exception : perkelle server thanx finland !)
2. the siege server itself is unplayable : its a spamfest where a feint take two sec to be done. result : xbow and bowman transform the game in a big counterstrike.
3. the idea -"the more there is player the more tactics, strategy and formation will be usefull"- is false: let's face it, it is just a big mess.

I must confess i still believe that the 22nd do not realize that a big server wil have such bad consequences on the community but after tree or two month of experiment you have to admit that a lot of littleclan server have to closed ... The funnier is that great 22nd players and nonclan players have quit siege server to play on little server (like the perkele one...).

To conclude, i think make biggest server is not a good community politic.
To make a compromise i'd say that a hundred people on a server is enought to give you the impression of a real battle, it's good to try to push the limits but not when it's destroying the spirit of a game,  push the player to learn the simplest technic to win .

Actually i'd like to have the opinion of mbw players about this problem.
What the 22nd players think about their server ?

So reply if you dare ! 

edit : i live in europe and i have a good ping in 22nd siege server but its obvious than the ping do not reflect properly the lag...

 

[Frosty]

I think the server is fine, stop whining.

 

[Galeran]

The server is obvoulsy not "fine" ... if it was i don't be whining ...

 

[Frosty]

If you don't like it, don't play there, find a new server. >.>

And if your lagging, its because you have a bad pc, Im fine and have no lag

 

[Galeran]

It is not as simple as that. There 600 players online for mb : with a 222 people siege server ... well i let you calculate.

edit: if you think that 3ghz * 4 and atiradeon hd ie5770 is the definition of a good pc maybe.
Try to do a feint you will see the difference whith a normal server whateve are your spec.

Plus, i have the right to express a opinion : is not whining, this is called a forum ^^.

 

[Frosty]

It is not as simple as that. There 600 players online for mb : with a 222 people siege server ... well i let you calculate.

I don't quite know what your getting at...
Your saying there's not enough siege servers for 600 people?

 

[Galeran]

i am saying that the 22nd siege server drain a lot of people, especialy new one, from more normal server. I don't know since when you're playing online but before there were a lot more 64 full battle servers with a nicier ambiance.

Since the 22nd siege server there a lot of tker, who are, imo, disgusting of the game after have experience the spam fest that is a 222people server.

edit: you can see how many people are online when you use the server filter.


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[Kittenhuffer]

If your theory is correct then where's the problem? People will grow tired of the server and abandon it, so 22nd will be forced to open up a smaller one instead and everything will be rainbows and lollipops again.

But really, people need to stop telling others what to do. They're playing there because they want to, not because they're forced to. Personally I never play on 22nd's siege server anymore, because of the things you stated in your first post as well as for the fact that I think the siege gamemode needs a lot of improvements before it'll be enjoyable. But yet I've never had trouble finding another populated server.

 

[Vincenzo]

Alright I had well enough of this whining all the time.

Stop be Jealous about our servers already. I can't help it that I am better then you guys in hosting servers.

We might be draining players but at the same time we are promoting Warband, A lot of people seem to like the big battles and the total player count of Warband players has risen ever since the patch with included map downloads.

It isn't as much spam as you think, I usually go around manual blocking noobs and killing them.

 

[sadnhappy]

I really haven't taken part to this discussion because some of the arguments seem quite pointless and I really do feel this whole thing is gone out of proportion for few weeks now and as a long serving member of 22nd from way back I simply do not understand this hostility. Let's rewind back several months, to betatimes.

Especially in the later stages of beta people had to que for the servers as there were way too many players compared to the amount of servers. First we had, what, 3 EU servers and 8 US for a long, long time. Then people started hosting their own servers and we did that too among others and thus the community rejoiced as now there were servers capable of catering to all the players online.

Soon after that the discussion turned to why we only have 42-44 player max cap (which we btw used to have in beta! Until the very last versions of the beta the cap was 40-44 players per any map, somewhere along the way the netcode was change and the max 64 was reached. Yet again, people rejoiced).

Then the discussion turned into "Can we actually top that?". People dreamed about having 128 player servers, they dreamt about it day and night and it was one of those great breaktroughs. And it was finally reached with 128 players. Guess if the community rejoiced or not? Yes they did. It was the dream they were looking for.

I'm really tired of this pointless discussion of 'stealing' players. It's not about that. If people want to play at smaller servers, they will play in them. I play only under 64 player servers btw because my machine is ancient and runs on coal. I play on IG Battle server, DR battle, whatever small battle server there is. I like native maps and I like the smaller battles.

The choice is mine, yours, theirs and ours. If they choose to go to a 222 server or 64, it's their choice and it's what they want. Why are we to blame for giving people what they want, I simply do not understand.

 

[Galeran]

Kittenuffer i agree whith you and  after all the players can make the choice to not play in the 22siege server but i think the new players will first play on the 222 siege server where they take very bad habit, like tk, spam etc etc...

Maybe my first post was to serious... but i think it's annoying to have to choose between halffull 64 server or a unplayable 222 people server.

 

[Frosty]

There are more servers you know?

 

[Galeran]

Alright I had well enough of this whining all the time.

Stop be Jealous about our servers already. I can't help it that I am better then you guys in hosting servers.

We might be draining players but at the same time we are promoting Warband, A lot of people seem to like the big battles and the total player count of Warband players has risen ever since the patch with included map downloads.

It isn't as much spam as you think, I usually go around manual blocking noobs and killing them.

hey, it's not a bash post, i just like to express my point of view and i don't care in hosting server lool. Me too i manual block newbie and kill them but i prefer fight against experienced players who knows than 2h spam is just a another word to "get killed" and i francly dont see how you can improve your self in a siege server. If i were a new player today i think i play the game like one month on your server because it's the place where there is the much players and stop after so much tk, spam, xbow spam telling my self "what a crap : there no strategy no technique... it is not the game i exepected" and totally ignorant of what is really, since the beta, really this game.

edit : well, we see in the futur how this whole thing evolve and my point is not to say : the 22nd are bad lol i know they arent and do a lot for the game but i also feel like 222players is too muche for the graphical engine of the game.
there is others servers, but how many full at 64 players, maybe one ...

 

[Frosty]

I think people x bowed spammed in real life... and if you don't like the game, why are you playing it... sheesh, just lock the thread..

 

[Bite Me]

Stop it, read Sadnhappys post and accept you are wrong. The 22nd as a whole and as individuals are getting so sick of people whining and complaining, what would the community do if we just said **** you all and shut down all of our servers, and cut away from the community, never doing a thing again?
I like these options: LOVE the massive battles... but when I get bored, oh look smaller servers running battle mode, ill join them... then later on YE MASSIVE SIEGE!! or PW mod woopeeey fun!  Oh wait by joining these im killing the game... so by playing the game i'm killing it, thats retarded.

These threads will get the derision and contempt they deserve. If you have a really big concern, PM us and we will explain things to you, our auto kick and auto ban scripts were made because a public player suggested it to us in a thread on our website, that is constructive, this, isnt.
So kindly stfu.

 

[Frosty]

Stop it, read Sadnhappys post and accept you are wrong. The 22nd as a whole and as individuals are getting so sick of people whining and complaining, what would the community do if we just said **** you all and shut down all of our servers, and cut away from the community, never doing a thing again?
I like these options: LOVE the massive battles... but when I get bored, oh look smaller servers running battle mode, ill join them... then later on YE MASSIVE SIEGE!! or PW mod woopeeey fun!  Oh wait by joining these im killing the game... so by playing the game i'm killing it, thats retarded.

These threads will get the derision and contempt they deserve. If you have a really big concern, PM us and we will explain things to you, our auto kick and auto ban scripts were made because a public player suggested it to us in a thread on our website, that is constructive, this, isnt.
So kindly stfu.

Agreed

 

[Galeran]

I think people x bowed spammed in real life... and if you don't like the game, why are you playing it... sheesh, just lock the thread..

I never say i dislike the game. Calm down man it's just a thread and a discussion : since the 22nd have a real impact on the community it is normal to discuss about that. but if you don't want to discuss alright close the thread lol.
Put to your logic : if people dont want to post on this thread they dont and post in other one. 
But you can say : there is no problem : proof, i think, like sir wain, there is a problem.

 

[Frosty]

I think people x bowed spammed in real life... and if you don't like the game, why are you playing it... sheesh, just lock the thread..

I never say i dislike the game

Funny how you just edited the post... lol.

Lock the thread... there have been about 5 posts about the 22nd server in the past month...

 

[Galeran]

i think too lol

i think too lol

edit : if people -as you say- dont stop whining there is maybe a reason. My post is indeed constructive : i propose a compromise between 222 server and 64 in my first post like 128 people server. Read my post ! i say 22nd have done great thing for community... but you have to accept to be critisize.
As i say i was mayby to serious in my first post... please dont do like me. 
edit 2: frosty you right i misread. english is not my native language as you can figure i guess.

 

[Frosty]

Say i am retarded is not exactly constructive...

Did anyone say that?