About Books in .90x
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I hate this kind of books, always have. I hated them in Morrowind, hated them in Fallouts and hated them in Bloodlines. They just complicate things, especially if you can break stat limits to skills with them and make building a character a chore (well at least to me).
edit: FYI haven't played the new version yet and probably won't till .904 or thereabouts.
edit: FYI haven't played the new version yet and probably won't till .904 or thereabouts.
Gregarion Roseby
Regular
Volkier 说:Alright, chill with spamming corney book-titles. You can make a topic about it in fun stuff if you wish, but I believe this is the suggestion board and the suggestion involved a mini-quest that made books available to the player - not what names those books should be.
Now as for the OP, this is indeed an intriguing suggestions. Don't see any reason why it should be condemned in any way. The only possible argument someone may have is that if your character couldn't read, then how would you be able to read the names on the world map? :
The topic creator was listing his own thoughts on names for the books. People's book name suggestions are perfectly in-line with the topic of this thread.
I support this idea.
Jericho
Sergeant Knight at Arms
EasyCo506 说:
You have got to be yanking my chain! ONE stinking proficiency point gained? Thats hardly worth
the time or the MONEY for that book! - When I find that foppish girlie-man of a book seller Im
going to disembowel him with a wooden spoon!
Maybe a thread should be started in the discussion forum where we can post the title of the
books and what they do for you? That way, those of us that havent purchased a particular book
yet could avoid it if it isnt worth the time and money. You know: A book review thread!
Darian
Sergeant Knight at Arms
After a few months of campfire songs I've worked out what all the books do (spoilers, obviously), and even how long you have to read them. The book list is ripped straight from item_kinds1.txt so there aren't any missing.Jericho 说:
Demonic Spoon
Squire
Keep in mind Calradia is not Europe in the middle ages. Calradia is roughly based on the technology available at that time period, but the technology was certainly there for people to read
The_Invincible_Knight
Knight
Perhaps there could be books for making food last longer?
The Big Book of Preservatives, by Noback Teeria.
(I know that was awful, I'll try harder next time. )
Seriously though, food runs out too fast when you have a decent-sized army...
Maybe 'The Chef's Secrets of Food Preservation' would sound better?
Maybe there could also be one for increasing horses' stats too?
'The Volumes of the Stablemasters'?
Just throwing some ideas out there...
The Big Book of Preservatives, by Noback Teeria.
(I know that was awful, I'll try harder next time. )Seriously though, food runs out too fast when you have a decent-sized army...
Maybe 'The Chef's Secrets of Food Preservation' would sound better?
Maybe there could also be one for increasing horses' stats too?
'The Volumes of the Stablemasters'?
Just throwing some ideas out there...
Something I composed for another thread, but realised belongs more in here:
Books: The first time I read LotR, I got through The Hobbit and the entire series in 96 hours. That's four days for seven extremely verbose books (well, 6 and a throwaway). The other "flaw" in books is how minor the reward you get from them is. For clarity, I'll refer to the books that give a boost while you have them as "manuals" and the ones you have to read as "tomes".
I suggest that reading a tome should take 2 or 3 days, but you should be able to re-read it and get more out of it, with the number of times you can re-read the same book varying. Some cheaper books you only need to read once or twice to get everything out of them, other's you could read for the rest of your life and still not get everything you can from them. From some books you might get different things at different times: Perhaps reading Sun-Tzu's work the first time gives you some insight that increases you tactics, the second time leadership, the third perhaps a point in Int, and so on. In the inventory screen, books could have a "Times read" number, which would be replaced with "Book mastered" when you've learnt all you can from it. Also, if reading a tome can get a skill past 10, reading it before you reach 10 should still allow you to manually upgrade to 11. It shouldn't be a better idea to max everything out before you begin your studies.
Some manuals should require you to read them first once to "unlock" them. You have to know what's IN the reference book before it's that useful to you. Really, the difference between manuals and tomes could be blurred: there could be a manual that gives you a permanent boost the first time you read it, or a tome that after you've read it a number of times acts as a reference book.
There should also be some books on literature/novels/poetry books which should increase your reading speed, in addition to any other boosts in CHA, Trade, or Leadership. Perhaps there are some books you have to read before you can get more out of another book. Basically, books should be an intricate and complex scholarly pursuit, and a well-rounded scholar should have a REASON to keep a well-stocked library.
Lastly, you should be able to read a book without specifically needing to camp and sit down to read. While camping and resting in taverns, you could read at half-rate, and even when travelling, you should be able to get some reading done on the back of your horse, or when you stop for meals, so maybe a reading rate of 25%.
Books: The first time I read LotR, I got through The Hobbit and the entire series in 96 hours. That's four days for seven extremely verbose books (well, 6 and a throwaway). The other "flaw" in books is how minor the reward you get from them is. For clarity, I'll refer to the books that give a boost while you have them as "manuals" and the ones you have to read as "tomes".
I suggest that reading a tome should take 2 or 3 days, but you should be able to re-read it and get more out of it, with the number of times you can re-read the same book varying. Some cheaper books you only need to read once or twice to get everything out of them, other's you could read for the rest of your life and still not get everything you can from them. From some books you might get different things at different times: Perhaps reading Sun-Tzu's work the first time gives you some insight that increases you tactics, the second time leadership, the third perhaps a point in Int, and so on. In the inventory screen, books could have a "Times read" number, which would be replaced with "Book mastered" when you've learnt all you can from it. Also, if reading a tome can get a skill past 10, reading it before you reach 10 should still allow you to manually upgrade to 11. It shouldn't be a better idea to max everything out before you begin your studies.
Some manuals should require you to read them first once to "unlock" them. You have to know what's IN the reference book before it's that useful to you. Really, the difference between manuals and tomes could be blurred: there could be a manual that gives you a permanent boost the first time you read it, or a tome that after you've read it a number of times acts as a reference book.
There should also be some books on literature/novels/poetry books which should increase your reading speed, in addition to any other boosts in CHA, Trade, or Leadership. Perhaps there are some books you have to read before you can get more out of another book. Basically, books should be an intricate and complex scholarly pursuit, and a well-rounded scholar should have a REASON to keep a well-stocked library.
Lastly, you should be able to read a book without specifically needing to camp and sit down to read. While camping and resting in taverns, you could read at half-rate, and even when travelling, you should be able to get some reading done on the back of your horse, or when you stop for meals, so maybe a reading rate of 25%.
Lobos
Recruit
From what I've seen you do not need to camp out to read a book. Once you go to camp/takeaction/read a book, and choose a book, you will always read it when you are resting. Regardless of wether you are in a town or in camp. Hell, I got thru de re Militari while besieging Radoghir castle.
Macsen
Sergeant
I learnt this the hard way -- like a fool I wanted to read in the castle, so hit Camp >> Read book, but of course this left me outside the castle and that bastard King of Swadia came and kicked my tent over with 100+ of his men. Must say the membership of my reading circle was seriously reduced (but not as much as his raiding party was reduced
)More seriously, what I would like is a NOTEBOOK - just a little text scratchpad so I can make notes in-game rather than clutter up the desk with piles of paper that get in the way of the mouse just as a Vaegir knight is about to turn you into a kebab... I wouldn't mind having to pay for it in-game, even paying to learn how to write in it, but it would be so useful if I could click on "Refer to notes" so I could check, say, the last price for velvet in Rivacheg, or what it was I decided Rolf should do with his next levelling up etc etc
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